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Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Wow looks like Apple has abandoned every bad decision on the MBP for the past 5 years in one swoop. No touchbar, increased key travel, added back hdmi/sd/headphone/power jacks. Plus bumped up RAM limit, M1, new displays, 120Hz... Wow.

And they made a new bad decision: a notch.

I don't have any issues with the notch.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

#402

Does anyone know why would it need 140w power adapter? I thought the M1 chips are supposed to be more power efficient than the Intel ones, and they never needed >100w power adapter in the Intel days. The new USB-C spec to support >100w power delivery was just out, I really hope they are following that spec in their new 140w USB-C power adapter.

It’s for the fast charging feature, where it charges 50% in 30 minutes.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

#403
Have Macbook Pro sales been declining for the past few years? I can understand removing the touchbar as a bad experiment but I thought Apple was obstinate about the move to USB-C. Really did not expect this backpeddling.

Edit - I'm definitely pleased with the move to add more ports. Just surprised.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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post #85
post #16

Kills the touch bar, the light touch keyboard, adds back weight, card reader, ports and the mag safe. Feels like an apology for prior design decisions. My 2011 MBP is new again!

I know I'm in the minority regarding the keyboard, but on my 2019 model it's been flawless and I really have come to like it quite a bit, more than the one on my 2014 even (except for the vertical arrow keys that is. Seems like nobody at Apple actually tested their usability)

Is it the late-2019 16" MBP?

If so, that's not the keyboard everyone hates. They were already backtracking the butterfly switches by that point

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

#408

It's great Apple is changing course back to where they were in 2013. What sucks is that all those laptops built between 2013 and 2022 will be dogs on the used market. For my money, I'm getting the Framework latop and I'm going to bite the bullet and run (in order of preference) FreeBSD, NixOS, or some Linux (Ubuntu, probably). I'm tired of Apple's shit.

2013-2022 will probably still be in demand for anybody that's camping out on Mojave to keep 32 bit support or has Intel-related needs, though that demand profile will of course change over time.

Framework + Linux sure seems compelling, though. I'm definitely tempted to try it.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

#409
the notch is a major design compromise and apple is not trying hard enough. i can not imagine paying six thousand dollars for a new laptop and literally staring into an unforced error every day. (See, Dell XPS bezel-less displays like this: https://twitter.com/SpencerDailey/status/1450170126360358914)

I hide my menu bar for maximum space, and you can't do that here without eating into your main apps' vertical space. the notch also reminds people of iphone features, which makes a touch screen an even more obvious omission, as well as Face ID. (FaceID is trending on twitter b/c people assume this laptop ships with it: https://twitter.com/MKBHD/status/1450162489795170307 )

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

#410
M1 aside, it's pretty clear that Jony Ive was holding back Apple's designs here. While he worked at Apple it was thinness at all costs, right after he leaves the MBP suddenly gets a tiny bit thicker in order to return a huge chunk of the features that were previously removed. Probably the only thing on this new laptop that can't be pinned on his departure is the M1 series of chips.
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