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Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by atourgates »

blakeyrat wrote: post #294
SolaceQuantum wrote: post #17

Now that the voices of the disenfranchised blue collar workers have been heard, what actually can be done to help them? I'm less worried about the accusations of racism, etc. because it appears to me a majority are voting because their livelihoods have been lost and, despite economics saying globalization will bring new jobs, they aren't showing up in the critical areas where they are needed. So, what policies can be…

I live in a relatively small suburb of Seattle. I'm a software developer. There are no jobs for me where I live. None. None within 20 miles. The only job for me is in Seattle or Bellevue or Redmond, an hour-long commute. I love where I live, and I don't want to live in Seattle (which I could barely afford anyway-- I like owning a house). I also don't want to exclusively work-from-home and be cut-off socially from my…

The flipside is that there probably aren't enough of you to fulfill the needs of companies that need a specialized technical or creative workforce.

I was recently talking with a former software company founder who started his company in Boise, Idaho in the late-90s.

The first few years, their product was a success and they doubled or more in size every year. Then, they started to plateau even though demand was still through the roof.

They couldn't keep up with demand, because they ran out of developers who lived in or were willing to move to Boise. In the words of the founder, "Every qualified developer within 100 miles of us got a job-offer, until there weren't any left."

The obvious solution would have been for them to move to Seattle or San Francisco. But all the founders were from Boise, and were committed to keeping the company in their home town.

At the end, they were paying qualified developers Silicon Valley wages, in addition to signing bonuses equivalent to a year's salary just to get them to move to Boise. As you can imagine, that severely hampered their ability to compete.

Finally, they sold to Microsoft. The founders assumed that the cache of Microsoft's name would be enough to draw developers, but Microsoft had the same problem. After a few years, Microsoft moved the whole operation back to Redmond.

All that to say, you (and I coincidentally) are in the minority. Most creative and technical professionals want to live in nice, big cities. The great thing for those of us that don't fit that mold, is that it's easier than ever to work remotely.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by mason240 »

antidaily wrote: post #40
SolaceQuantum wrote: post #17

Now that the voices of the disenfranchised blue collar workers have been heard, what actually can be done to help them? I'm less worried about the accusations of racism, etc. because it appears to me a majority are voting because their livelihoods have been lost and, despite economics saying globalization will bring new jobs, they aren't showing up in the critical areas where they are needed. So, what policies can be…

Working poor voting HRC: http://i.imgur.com/RAaGDnW.jpg Dems across the board stayed home. And 9% of registered Dems voted for Trump.

Oh boy, an online poll.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by mitochondrion »

nickbauman wrote: post #539

I think we learned that fake news (used to pump up fake issues) is now a legitimate campaign strategy that works even on people who should know better. Trump won on a mountain of fake issues: Immigration: both conservative and liberal economists agree that immigration (illegal or otherwise) does not suppress wages and does not suppress job growth. https://www.cato.org/research/immigration http://business.time.com/201…

Immigration isn't a fake issue. Take a walk around Miami or San Diego. Or New York. Or London. Or Paris. Or Malmö.

Gay marriage is just the final nail in the coffin of marriage, which was already basically dead. It's a mind-bogglingly stupid hill to die on, but nobody ever accused conservatives of brilliance.

Obamacare is a disaster because it enables still more people to suck still more dollars out of the system than there are people putting dollars into the system. The people getting more than they put in are parasites; the people getting less than they put in are suckers. When you don't pay for your own healthcare, you don't care how much it costs. Go to any veterinarian's office to see the cost of medicine in a free market.

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Post by Florin_Andrei »

neves wrote: post #320
jernfrost wrote: post #215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can do what the democrats have talked about, which we have successfully done in Nordic countries which is to spend a lot of money on re-educating the workforce and making sure those at the bottom get decent skills. I grew up in a rustbelt like industrial town in Norway. We has shipyards, glass factory, paper mill, textile industry, lock systems etc. Almost all of it got closed down and moved overseas as I grew up…

You can't compare Norway, a high educated small country full of petromoney with the rest of the world. The recipe can't be reproduced.

Denmark, Sweden, etc, beg to differ.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by antisthenes »

yolesaber wrote: post #43

I'd argue you are clueless. Trump has been sued several times for the discrimination against black people, he fired black people from his casinos and moved them to the back, he INSISTS TO THIS DAY that the Central Park Five are guilty despite DNA evidence, he jokes and also brags about literally molesting women. People like you disgust me. Stop acting like his words and actions don't matter.

Step back for a second and consider how many millions voted for him despite those remarks and issues.

Perhaps if you are so disgusted by half of the citizens in your country, you should seriously consider emigrating somewhere else, if that's truly an issue for you.

But I suspect, like most comments on the Internet, it's nothing more but empty posturing.

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Post by gwbas1c »

thomyorkie wrote: post #681
nickbauman wrote: post #539

I think we learned that fake news (used to pump up fake issues) is now a legitimate campaign strategy that works even on people who should know better. Trump won on a mountain of fake issues: Immigration: both conservative and liberal economists agree that immigration (illegal or otherwise) does not suppress wages and does not suppress job growth. https://www.cato.org/research/immigration http://business.time.com/201…

> Terrorism: more toddlers killed Americans than terrorists in 2015. For every terrorist killing someone on US soil, more than 4000 Americans killed each other. Terrorism isn't a fake issue. You're ignoring the potential devastating effects that a successful terrorist attack on U.S. soil could have. Terrorists are always trying to up their game and its because of this that they represent a significant threat. Toddler…

Terrorism isn't about an attack, it's about fear. When we sacrifice our freedoms to live in fear of terrorists, they win.

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Post by cwe »

blakeyrat wrote: post #294
SolaceQuantum wrote: post #17

Now that the voices of the disenfranchised blue collar workers have been heard, what actually can be done to help them? I'm less worried about the accusations of racism, etc. because it appears to me a majority are voting because their livelihoods have been lost and, despite economics saying globalization will bring new jobs, they aren't showing up in the critical areas where they are needed. So, what policies can be…

I live in a relatively small suburb of Seattle. I'm a software developer. There are no jobs for me where I live. None. None within 20 miles. The only job for me is in Seattle or Bellevue or Redmond, an hour-long commute. I love where I live, and I don't want to live in Seattle (which I could barely afford anyway-- I like owning a house). I also don't want to exclusively work-from-home and be cut-off socially from my…

Hopefully you voted for ST3

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Post by IanDrake »

rhodysurf wrote: post #481
IanDrake wrote: post #217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't vote for Trump, but what LGBTQ rights are you talking about? I don't recall any federal law that passed granting them rights. Also, what sort of income equality were you hoping a Democratic government would implement? How would the mechanics of that work?

Marriage Equality?

The Supreme Court enforced the Constitution on states that were violating it. This had nothing to do with the current administration.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obergefell_v._Hodges

While new appointments could change verdict if this issue was reconsidered, I don't think that will happen.

More importantly - Point Judith v. Matunuck? I say P.J.

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Post by new_user_name »

baristaGeek wrote: post #535

Just in case anyone is wondering the same thing as I last night: The USCIS administrative act for the International Entrepreneur Rule (Startup Visa) won't be affected. First, because it's being passed as an administrative action, meaning that it doesn't have to be voted in congress in order for it to start taking an effect. Second, because it's actually aligned with Donald Trump's 3rd immigration policy driver (the f…

Do you have any news items or anything that I can read up? I am very hopeful of this new rule and thinking to bring our startup to US

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by DominikR »

ltorresv wrote: post #649
DominikR wrote: post #596

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is true, she didn't make a strong positive case for what her policies would look like. And if she did then she didn't spend her time effectively trying to convey this. (can't actually remember even a single policy of hers except for easier abortions and confrontation with Russia over Syria) But what I feel is problematic is that Trump was painted as some kind of Hitler, which is ludicrous if you spent a few hour…

I remember the leaks mentioned something about reinforcing the "Trump = Hitler" idea. This was all manufactured by the DNC and it didn't work. I wouldn't be surprised if they're currently planning ways to disrupt Trumps inauguration or other events during the next 4 years to see if he snaps and they can use that as ammo for the next election. At the end of the day it's politics and playing dirty is expected but now t…

I agree that it is a normal (but nasty) part of politics to paint an unfavourable picture of an opponent (both candidates did that), but inciting violence is where it goes too far for me.

I imagine how many people in the US are now fearing for their lives because the DNC made them believe that Trump will probably build forced labour camps. And how many of them are not just frightened but even read to use violence.

When I check my Facebook newsfeed it's full of posts from friends who seem to be very afraid about what has happened.

If something terrible happens then it might be that the DNC has created the illusion which justified the violence.

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