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Re: NSA releases open-source infosec tool

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Post by Nadya »

ryandrake wrote: post #62
grkvlt wrote: post #39

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> traitor to the hacker culture I don't understand the weird disconnect between HN and the intelligence community. It's almost the perfect job for a 'hacker' type: work with cutting edge technology and thousands of other incredibly intelligent people to try and out-think adversaries to gain access to their resources. You get to build defensive and offensive software to attack computer systems, and actually use it, so…

The NSA peed in their own pool. At one point in my life I would have found it really cool to do security work for the NSA or a defense contractor, but as their despicable behavior comes into light more and more, I can no longer say I'd have been proud to have worked there. Its gotten to the point where if I saw "worked for the NSA" on someone's resume as a recent employer, I'd have serious questions about their ethic…

Strange - I'd ask why they left - as I get the opposite impression than what you have.

"Worked for the NSA" is past-tense and they may have left after the immoral workings came to light and that didn't jive with their ethical compass.

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Post by gorgak »

arca_vorago wrote: post #55
briandear wrote: post #34

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How many friends of yours were blown up by IRA or shot by the UVF? How many people lost arms and legs at Omagh? Sustainable communities would be great. Let's start by helping Hezbollah build co working spaces in Beirut. Maybe the next Twitter is just waiting to be created by former Shia militias. The next time ISIS cut off a head or Islamists kill someone like Theo Van Gogh for doing nothing more than making a movie,…

Obviously his comment was not very well thought out or supported by much of anything, and so warranted criticism, but lets not be blind to the substance behind his sentiment. The IRA and UVF, Hezbollah etc all have something in common. That is that they are responses to actions primarily done by imperialistic actions of other countries (the UVF was the counter to the IRA which was a response to British actions, while…

well, i thought quite a lot of people here would already know quite a lot of this. thankyou for writing that :) operation northwoods i think is a good documented example of how we are treated. as is the chemical weapons testing your government did on you and probably still does. theres also documented proof of the uk government testing various chemicals out on us lot. these are the kind of people we are dealing with.

Re: NSA releases open-source infosec tool

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Post by bitmapbrother »

UserRights wrote: post #40
fcanela wrote: post #3

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Aims to avoid duplication of effort for govt agencies. The US National Security Agency has offered up one of its cyber security tools for government departments and the private sector to use freely to help counter threats and raise their security posture. The systems integrity management platform - SIMP - was released to the code repository GitHub over the weekend. SIMP helps to keep networked systems compliant with…

Do you remember that backdoor that was found in SELinux a few years ago?

No, could you elaborate on this "back door"?

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Post by caskance »

RRRA wrote: post #46
grkvlt wrote: post #39

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> traitor to the hacker culture I don't understand the weird disconnect between HN and the intelligence community. It's almost the perfect job for a 'hacker' type: work with cutting edge technology and thousands of other incredibly intelligent people to try and out-think adversaries to gain access to their resources. You get to build defensive and offensive software to attack computer systems, and actually use it, so…

This one sided view of their marketing pitch is exactly what's wrong with them and, to some extent HN in general, in it's Californian money & tech bubble... Seen from the outside, this kind of tech-trip-before-thinking-globally, or solutionism, is why people are upset, and rightly so. Snowden has shown, as many others have before and after, that they spy for economic and political gain against ally, they don't even r…

Criticising the NSA for spying on the wrong targets makes as little sense as criticising soldiers because your country is at war with the wrong enemy.

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Post by caskance »

happyscrappy wrote: post #29
user_0001 wrote: post #20

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oh come on, to think this exclusive to the UK and the US is incredibly naive. To think it hasn't gone on since the beginning of government, all governments. Dismantling them won't do a damn thing, they are a product of the political system we have, not the cause. Get rid of one letter agency and another will appear. If have to go for the cause

In order to hate you have to separate out the US and UK because if you admit that the whole West is working together then you have to hate the whole West, and that would be stupid.

And yet, despite realizing that, some people think "well, I'll just arbitrarily limit my hate to the US and UK then" and not reconsider whether the original premise makes any sense.

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Post by caskance »

whyever wrote: post #65
dkns wrote: post #43

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>those organizations have saved more people than you'd know and they are the reason we don't have 9-11s each week Citation needed.

Didn't congress look for evidence of them preventing terrorism and found nothing?

Didn't hn look for evidence of them preventing terrorism and found nothing?

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Post by MichaelCrawford »

mattlutze wrote: post #47
valarauca1 wrote: post #22

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>The commander can be Air, Army, Navy, or Marine. In non-combat joint operations. Like technological development, R&D, etc. The Marines are represented by the Navy, as they're part of the Navy.

The USMC will still have personnel stationed in these organizations, it won't all be Navy.

Do Marines serve aboard Naval vessels?

I do understand that the Marine Corps was created because the Navy wasn't having a whole lot of luck with attacking the Barbary Pirates on land, so the Navy delivered the Marines to Tunisia or Morocco or what have you then the Marines dealt with the pirates after going ashore in a Ground Effect Vehicle.

I have only been aboard just one of my father's boats, the USS Springfield in Gaeta, Italy in 1970 and '71. I clearly remember this huge battleship but when I visited in 1997 what I expect was the same kind of ship looked more like a canoe.

I think the Springfield was either a Light Cruiser or a Missile Cruiser but Dad never made a whole lot of sense when he tried to explain things verbally.

Anyway I don't recall ever seeing any Marines there in Gaeta.

I do understand that in These Modern Times the United States Marine Corps jets around aboard Virgin Air.

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Post by MichaelCrawford »

MichaelCrawford wrote: post #13

I applied for the US Air Force Cyber Command in 2008. While there is no way I could get a clearance I hoped to work in a purely defensive position. At the time every branch of the military wanted its own computer security force; eventually they were unified under the Joint Forces Cyber Command, which is under the Stategic Command (STRATCOM); the Strategic Command is the joint successor to the Strategic Air Command. (…

Back in the day one of JFK's more-insightful aids was pictured in Time (or maybe Life) magazine while holding a handbag that contained a document whose "TOP SECRET ULTRA" stamp was clearly visible.

The United States Congress swiftly outlawed the expression "TOP SECRET ULTRA" then replaced it with something but I will never know because that classification is itself TOP SECRET something-or-other.

After the dust settled from the document-stamping party the Director of the NSA dropped a dime to JFK's insightful aid to thank him for setting The American Taxpayer back a quarter-million dollars.

New rubber stamps, see.

Just now I looked up the United States Marine Corps Forces Cyber Command only to find that it's know known as the United States Marine Core Forces Cyberspace. Each branch seems to have its own take on how to take on America's enemies by dropping too many documents on Mom's iMac thereby running it completely out of "gigabytes".

Mom and I failed to have a meeting of the minds until she came up with "gigabytes". It is of no use to point out that she really means "storage" so I just say "gigabytes" when I talk shop with my mother.

Doubtlessly widespread unemployment would result in the Congressional Districts where rubber stamp factories may be found were our Joint Forces not to adopt new names every time three sane men simultaneously saw the very first crescent moon after the new moon.

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Post by gorgak »

Daviey wrote: post #64
gorgak wrote: post #15

any hacker who supports the NSA or GCHQ is a traitor to the hacker culture and to the human race. these disgusting people must be stopped. the americans and british geopolitical meddling made their own enemies which they implore you to give your freedoms up for (or did, your freedoms are gone right about now) - the NSA and GCHQ need to be completely abolished and the money put into sustainable communities and fuck th…

Please don't presume that you are entitled to define what hacker culture is.

i didnt, its already been defined for many years.

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Post by mattlutze »

MichaelCrawford wrote: post #77
mattlutze wrote: post #47

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The USMC will still have personnel stationed in these organizations, it won't all be Navy.

Do Marines serve aboard Naval vessels? I do understand that the Marine Corps was created because the Navy wasn't having a whole lot of luck with attacking the Barbary Pirates on land, so the Navy delivered the Marines to Tunisia or Morocco or what have you then the Marines dealt with the pirates after going ashore in a Ground Effect Vehicle. I have only been aboard just one of my father's boats, the USS Springfield i…

I imagine Marines will be deployed at least on Naval vessels with combat or combat support missions. I imagine Marines fly missions from aircraft carriers alongside Navy pilots, albeit fewer. And, land-based research or other commands (like the previous poster had mentioned) will still have Marines -- it's more than just a large infantry unit.
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