This brief writeup from Puppet Labs seems to answer most of the questions I had about the nature and usefulness of the technology released.
https://puppetlabs.com/blog/nsa-release-system-integrity-man...
NSA releases open-source infosec tool
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#42any hacker who supports the NSA or GCHQ is a traitor to the hacker culture and to the human race. these disgusting people must be stopped. the americans and british geopolitical meddling made their own enemies which they implore you to give your freedoms up for (or did, your freedoms are gone right about now) - the NSA and GCHQ need to be completely abolished and the money put into sustainable communities and fuck th…
How many friends of yours were blown up by IRA or shot by the UVF? How many people lost arms and legs at Omagh? Sustainable communities would be great. Let's start by helping Hezbollah build co working spaces in Beirut. Maybe the next Twitter is just waiting to be created by former Shia militias. The next time ISIS cut off a head or Islamists kill someone like Theo Van Gogh for doing nothing more than making a movie,…
there will be no progress without an overthrow of the politic-financial complex and the various institutions that have built up around this mess, creating perpetual wars that will never be won, bumbling around the middle east causing far more harm than good and breaking the god damn internet.
once you understand the extent of the meddling, i dont think you would be saying this stuff. maybe you just havent researched what these people get up to as much as me. any hacker knows that the extent of illegal breakage caused by these two organisations is colossal and outrageous. its amazing they then have the gall to prosecute kids for hacking and give them ridiculous sentences for tapping on a keyboard with morally upstanding motives (thinking of these anonymous kids here)
what i mean about sustainable communities is that we need to focus on human well being, not external conflict. its not some simplistic stereotypical hippy ideal about coffee, its a direct result of coming to an enlightened awakening that capitalism has FAILED. if you cant see it by now in the corrupt casinos (financial markets) and destructive globalist corporations which dominate our world and politics then it is you that are naive my friend.
i do believe there is a certain element to hacker culture that is intrinsically opposed to what these organisations are doing, because of the curiosity of the mindset, they are not ready to just accept a piece of information on face value. they are critical thinkers. a lot of hackers dont just swallow the brainwashing, 911 repeating, terrorist bullshit mindset, what you dont seem to ask yourself at any point is 'what caused these people to be annoyed at your country in the first place' - and i think you will find its to do with your foreign policy on israel and the fact you / we go around the world bombing the crap out of people. see when you stop killing people then their family wont come back to try to kill you, its a really simple concept, which im amazed you didnt consider :)
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#43any hacker who supports the NSA or GCHQ is a traitor to the hacker culture and to the human race. these disgusting people must be stopped. the americans and british geopolitical meddling made their own enemies which they implore you to give your freedoms up for (or did, your freedoms are gone right about now) - the NSA and GCHQ need to be completely abolished and the money put into sustainable communities and fuck th…
How many friends of yours were blown up by IRA or shot by the UVF? How many people lost arms and legs at Omagh? Sustainable communities would be great. Let's start by helping Hezbollah build co working spaces in Beirut. Maybe the next Twitter is just waiting to be created by former Shia militias. The next time ISIS cut off a head or Islamists kill someone like Theo Van Gogh for doing nothing more than making a movie,…
>those organizations have saved more people than you'd know and they are the reason we don't have 9-11s each week
Citation needed.
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#44any hacker who supports the NSA or GCHQ is a traitor to the hacker culture and to the human race. these disgusting people must be stopped. the americans and british geopolitical meddling made their own enemies which they implore you to give your freedoms up for (or did, your freedoms are gone right about now) - the NSA and GCHQ need to be completely abolished and the money put into sustainable communities and fuck th…
kinda extreme. Most of them probably go there for employment opportunity, nothing to do with whatever ideology. Calling them names just sound so immature and unprofessional at best.
yes im sure there are some very nice very unconscious people working for GCHQ and NSA. wasnt particularly having a go at the pawns. i know tho that they believe they are really doing essential work. they would have to.
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#45Not their first Opensource project Apache Accumulo was opensourced by them - http://www.informationweek.com/applications/nsa-submits-open...?
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#46any hacker who supports the NSA or GCHQ is a traitor to the hacker culture and to the human race. these disgusting people must be stopped. the americans and british geopolitical meddling made their own enemies which they implore you to give your freedoms up for (or did, your freedoms are gone right about now) - the NSA and GCHQ need to be completely abolished and the money put into sustainable communities and fuck th…
> traitor to the hacker culture I don't understand the weird disconnect between HN and the intelligence community. It's almost the perfect job for a 'hacker' type: work with cutting edge technology and thousands of other incredibly intelligent people to try and out-think adversaries to gain access to their resources. You get to build defensive and offensive software to attack computer systems, and actually use it, so…
This one sided view of their marketing pitch is exactly what's wrong with them and, to some extent HN in general, in it's Californian money & tech bubble...
Seen from the outside, this kind of tech-trip-before-thinking-globally, or solutionism, is why people are upset, and rightly so. Snowden has shown, as many others have before and after, that they spy for economic and political gain against ally, they don't even respect local American's laws and could hardly be described as democratic or even accountable.
I'm not saying there isn't a need for law enforcement or surveillance, but it has to be accountable, targeted and justified. Not simply a secret digital war machine disguised under the "omg, everything is now terrorism! Save the children! --fox" and cool marketing to entrap the young mind and throw them away once their time has passed...
I wish I would want to work there, IF and only IF, they would fix all those issues.
In the mean time, yes, they are an enemy of democracy, and a very hypocritical one at that.
The public servants that work there deserve to be put to work for the greater good.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
> (The military is heavily into the word "Joint". I cannot possibly speculate as to why.) Joint refers to a multibranch organization. The Joint Forces Cyber Command, for example, doesn't belong to a specific branch, but employs multiple branches. The commander can be Air, Army, Navy, or Marine. When any two branches work together it becomes joint .
>The commander can be Air, Army, Navy, or Marine. In non-combat joint operations. Like technological development, R&D, etc. The Marines are represented by the Navy, as they're part of the Navy.
The USMC will still have personnel stationed in these organizations, it won't all be Navy.
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#48any hacker who supports the NSA or GCHQ is a traitor to the hacker culture and to the human race. these disgusting people must be stopped. the americans and british geopolitical meddling made their own enemies which they implore you to give your freedoms up for (or did, your freedoms are gone right about now) - the NSA and GCHQ need to be completely abolished and the money put into sustainable communities and fuck th…
> traitor to the hacker culture I don't understand the weird disconnect between HN and the intelligence community. It's almost the perfect job for a 'hacker' type: work with cutting edge technology and thousands of other incredibly intelligent people to try and out-think adversaries to gain access to their resources. You get to build defensive and offensive software to attack computer systems, and actually use it, so…
you dont understand because you work in their PR dept. i wont go into the evidence of intelligence agencies involvement in false flag terrorist incidents. you can look it up for yourself. try 'gladio'
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
> traitor to the hacker culture I don't understand the weird disconnect between HN and the intelligence community. It's almost the perfect job for a 'hacker' type: work with cutting edge technology and thousands of other incredibly intelligent people to try and out-think adversaries to gain access to their resources. You get to build defensive and offensive software to attack computer systems, and actually use it, so…
you dont understand because you work in their PR dept. i wont go into the evidence of intelligence agencies involvement in false flag terrorist incidents. you can look it up for yourself. try 'gladio'
I know what Gladio was, the NATO stay-behind operation in Italy. However the argument that something happened once therefore it is happening all the time is pretty flawed. Nobody would ever suggest that the existence of Gladio means that flase-flag operations are standard practice or the default mdoe of operation for the IC.
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#50This is _not_ by the NSA but by its contractors. Namely employees of Onyx Point, Inc. and KEYW Corporation.
There are several other contractors that were involved in the creation of the Puppet modules but those are the top two contributors probably. In fact, I'm pretty sure I was asked to contribute the Puppet module I hacked a year ago or so to the project but with a casual search I didn't see any commit by myself.
I had no idea that NSA had anything to do with this project is the thing. I just thought it was a project to standardize deployments of projects for DoD IC systems using modern configuration management tools, specifically Puppet.