You actually don't need police to collect parking tickets. Other countries have specialized kinds of law enforcement forces to handle traffic.
Life in New York City, Where Arrests Are Down and Tickets Are Rarities
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#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's the connection to libertarianism?
I mostly meant anti-regulation. I'm not sure we need strict laws regarding parking, public drinking, loosies, ect. Let alone aggressive enforcement. I think parts of NYC are a good example of how enforcement can cause a more negative environment than the original activity.
If you have ever been to NYC you would know that if the parking regulations were not enforced so zealously the city would be a mess. The only reason why $40 parking garages are full is that you know if you park illegally on the streets of Manhattan, your car is getting ticketed, and likely towed. Surely it makes NYC a ton of revenue but it is the only way to make things work. I agree with you on the other points.
Re: Life in New York City, Where Arrests Are Down and Tickets Are Rarities
#73From the Times editorial board: > If the Police Department’s current commanders cannot get the cops to do their jobs, Mr. de Blasio should consider replacing them. > He should invite the Justice Department to determine if the police are guilty of civil rights violations in withdrawing policing from minority communities. > He should remind the police that they are public employees, under oath to uphold city and state…
Or maybe he could just show them a little respect.
respect is earned not demanded.
Furthermore, the duty of "respect" is for public servants to the duly elected representative of the people they serve, not the other way around.
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#74From the Times editorial board: > If the Police Department’s current commanders cannot get the cops to do their jobs, Mr. de Blasio should consider replacing them. > He should invite the Justice Department to determine if the police are guilty of civil rights violations in withdrawing policing from minority communities. > He should remind the police that they are public employees, under oath to uphold city and state…
He should remind the police that they are public employees, under oath to uphold city and state laws. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia
The ruling
"[t]he duty to provide public services is owed to the public at large, and, absent a special relationship between the police and an individual, no specific legal duty exists."
They still have the duty, but it does not necessarily apply on an individual basis.
Re: Life in New York City, Where Arrests Are Down and Tickets Are Rarities
#75From the Times editorial board: > If the Police Department’s current commanders cannot get the cops to do their jobs, Mr. de Blasio should consider replacing them. > He should invite the Justice Department to determine if the police are guilty of civil rights violations in withdrawing policing from minority communities. > He should remind the police that they are public employees, under oath to uphold city and state…
...so, like, were you the kid in class who always reminded the teachers when they forgot to assign homework? After all, what this is really all about, is an attack aimed to reduce all the funds that those delicious, orange parking tickets generate. All the petty nuisance tickets, and summonses, and violations that harvest money from non-violent citizens, rather than produce burdens by incurring imprisonment costs. Yo…
Hi, I see you're new here, so you might not know yet, but ad hominem attacks like your opening sentence are not welcome on Hacker News.
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#76From the Times editorial board: > If the Police Department’s current commanders cannot get the cops to do their jobs, Mr. de Blasio should consider replacing them. > He should invite the Justice Department to determine if the police are guilty of civil rights violations in withdrawing policing from minority communities. > He should remind the police that they are public employees, under oath to uphold city and state…
He should remind the police that they are public employees, under oath to uphold city and state laws. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia
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#77From the Times editorial board: > If the Police Department’s current commanders cannot get the cops to do their jobs, Mr. de Blasio should consider replacing them. > He should invite the Justice Department to determine if the police are guilty of civil rights violations in withdrawing policing from minority communities. > He should remind the police that they are public employees, under oath to uphold city and state…
He should remind the police that they are public employees, under oath to uphold city and state laws. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia
While your link is not exactly pertinent to the above conversation, it does highlight how vulnerable people can be to violent action, regardless of police presence, and it serves as a reminder that personal security is in the hands of the individual, not the state.
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would guess that there hasn't been enough time for people to realize their minor infractions will no longer get punished.
Is the fear of punishment the only thing that keeps people from doing criminal acts? 1. People speed and park wrongly despite both of these being illegal 2. A huge majority of people aren't assholes all the time, despite this not being illegal 3. Murders do get committed though it's illegal 4. Most stuff isn't stolen even though it is very difficult to catch someone breaking into houses There's a book called Three Fe…
1) society is not falling apart.
2) the average American does not commit 3 felonies a day.
We have found that small rewards for not speeding reduces speeding - so yes, driving behavior can be modified by externalities.
http://www.rooneylawfirm.com/Articles/Monetary-Rewards-May-S...
If private parking in Manhattan is $30 and driving up on the sidewalk to park is free, the latter will happen. There is too many cars in New York for it NOT to happen. I've seen the latter happen in another country...
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#79From the Times editorial board: > If the Police Department’s current commanders cannot get the cops to do their jobs, Mr. de Blasio should consider replacing them. > He should invite the Justice Department to determine if the police are guilty of civil rights violations in withdrawing policing from minority communities. > He should remind the police that they are public employees, under oath to uphold city and state…
He should remind the police that they are public employees, under oath to uphold city and state laws. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia
I have no legal training, but doesn't the ruling say police officers still have a duty to the public, just not to the individual?
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
The truth of the matter is that we don't know why crime dropped over the last 30ish years. There are lots of theories, broken windows policing is just one of them. https://www.themarshallproject.org/2014/11/24/10-not-entirel...
Here in Vancouver, police appear to be fairly hands-off (of course this is coming from a white male perspective, and I don't know enough black people here to have an idea of how different their experience is). And while we have a lot of drug activity, homelessness, streetwalking, etc. I believe there is a lower rate of violent/organized crime than NYC. Of course, Canadians have a much different attitude towards gun o…
Manhattan is pretty safe. People walk in the central park pretty late in the night (9-11pm) because there are (were) police patrol in it.