Earlier quoted context omitted.
Great point. But speaking from experience, if you're using Us-East exclusively, you're [eventually] gonna have a bad time anyways...
This is very true. :)
HipChat I hope your taking notes!
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Re: HipChat is now free for teams of 5 users or fewer
#72Awesome. I am just looking into chat options for our small but growing team. As an aside I think IRC is being sold short on this chart: https://www.hipchat.com/compare Nothing wrong against it since it is mosting a marketing comparison chart. IRC is fairly hard to use if you aren't familiar with it already so I get it. We decided to try out an IRC channel because it was easy to get started, no cost really, and knowin…
Does (m)IRC have the ability to log everything? It's been a decade since I've used mIRC but I could have sworn I was able to save everything even back then.
Re: HipChat is now free for teams of 5 users or fewer
#73Awesome. I am just looking into chat options for our small but growing team. As an aside I think IRC is being sold short on this chart: https://www.hipchat.com/compare Nothing wrong against it since it is mosting a marketing comparison chart. IRC is fairly hard to use if you aren't familiar with it already so I get it. We decided to try out an IRC channel because it was easy to get started, no cost really, and knowin…
Does (m)IRC have the ability to log everything? It's been a decade since I've used mIRC but I could have sworn I was able to save everything even back then.
It certainly does. I'm pretty sure that almost every IRC client can do this, as can IM clients like Pidgin. (That reminds me: does Hipchat work well with Pidgin?)
edit: I think the difference on that chart, though, is that mIRC is a __client__, whereas I suspect that Hipchat's server also does logging -- so that you can see the chat log even if you were previously not connected. That's not something that is normally suported with IRC. You could roll your own with a custom client and server, I expect, but at that point you'd be investing probably more effort than it's worth.
Re: HipChat is now free for teams of 5 users or fewer
#74Re: HipChat is now free for teams of 5 users or fewer
#75We've been using HipChat at Blimp since the very first day, we've even integrated it as our Support Chat. We are only three at the moment but have paid for up to 4 users. One less thing we have to pay for, and still be able to use such a great product.
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
Shameless plug here, re: "IRC is fairly hard to use if you aren't familiar with it already" I'm currently working on a web based IRC client called Relay.js ( https://github.com/Fauntleroy/relay.js ), which is my attempt at making IRC a little more approachable. It's pretty basic at the moment, but I hope to make it something really special in the coming months.
Ooh, if you're open to suggestions, my number one frustration with IRC goes like this: I'm connected and happily chatting, but then my Wifi blips and I'm disconnected. There's no chat log, so I don't know what I missed. And on crappy connections, this can happen pretty frequently. I know there are programs that'll keep you online and collect chat logs even if you disconnect, but it seems ridiculous to have to set up…
There have been irc bots for as long as there has been IRC.
Eggdrop bot is a common one, open source, etc.
Re: HipChat is now free for teams of 5 users or fewer
#77Standard Atlassian MO for all of their products. They get you by having what would be a fairly small team in your company (usually 5 people) using their product and they are the trojan horse that then makes you end up purchasing a license.
That sounds like it's either an unclear arrangement ('trojan horse') or a bad thing ('makes you end up purchasing'). Atlassian makes great products and, if your team/company grows to the size where you need to pay, the cost is far less than the value of time saved. Sometimes, it's worth avoiding the hassle of free/open-source projects for critical tools. I say this is a very happy paying Atlassian paying customer.
We pay for Atlassian products at my company as well. I just call their business model the "trojan horse". I personally don't prefer their products but that is not to say they are bad.
Re: HipChat is now free for teams of 5 users or fewer
#78Does it work with multiple organizations? Can I have an account that is free for me and 4 friends, but also be part of an organization that someone else pays for? Or as a contractor - could I be part of two different paying organizations?
Disappointing that this is still not supported. The need to be able to join multiple organizations is what prevented me from advocating for my company to switch to HipChat a year ago. Unfortunately it looks like http://help.hipchat.com/forums/138883-suggestions/suggestion... has not received much attention.
Re: HipChat is now free for teams of 5 users or fewer
#79Does it work with multiple organizations? Can I have an account that is free for me and 4 friends, but also be part of an organization that someone else pays for? Or as a contractor - could I be part of two different paying organizations?
Looks like that's not possible. http://help.hipchat.com/knowledgebase/articles/64418-how-do-... so I wonder how it works for billing - if my boss creates a room that has more than 5 people in it and I join too, is it who opens the room that pays?
One person creates the "organisation", and then creates users/accounts within that organisation (or invites people). The organisation pays the bills. I assume it's not "first 5 people free" if you have more but either "up to 5 people free' or $2/mo/user - so if you have 6 it's 6 x $2/mo. Similar to Atlassian's other products with their $10/10 user tier.
Looking at the Billing screen of our 45 user account it doesn't seem like anything has changed (will still be $90/mo)
Re: HipChat is now free for teams of 5 users or fewer
#80Aside from the phone applications, what makes Hipchat better than say, Skype?
My company recently started using Skype as a free hipchat-like service. My complaints with it so far have been:
-you have to explicitly enable history to have people entering a conversation see it.
-When I send a message on my computer, I get a notification about my own message on my phone.