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Re: Amazon pilots ad services in ChatGPT

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Post by hnlmorg »

embedding-shape wrote: post #66
hnlmorg wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was recently rewatching one of Hicks routines for the first time in possibly 20 years and his content is just as relevant now, if not more so, than it was 30+ years ago when he wrote and performed it.

Helps that Hicks was borderline obsessed with hating marketing and marketers, and they're an even bigger pest today than 30 years ago. I guess that's how you make your content relevant through the ages, target the parasites :)

It wasn’t just marketers he talked about though. There were a few topics he touched on.

Re: Amazon pilots ad services in ChatGPT

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Post by sensanaty »

How epic, we supposedly have AGI if the marketing is to be believed, and what do these clever folks decide to do with their new omnipotent computer God that "solves coding" as one of the Anthropic drones so aptly said? More fucking advertisements. What a bright future we have ahead of us.

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Post by crisnoble »

expedition32 wrote: post #33
ryandvm wrote: post #18

Did anybody think this wasn't going to happen? They weren't going to burn a couple trillion dollars of capital and lose money on every API call just so you could ask it to tell you why your cat brings you dead mice. They're going to pump this shit so full of advertising it's not going to be funny. And worse, it's going to be incredibly subtle and insidious. You're not even going to realize the responses are guiding y…

So now if you ask ChatGPT about what electric shaver to buy the answer will be sponsored? How nice.

This is why normal people saying they are using ChatGPT to "research" which X to buy makes me so sad. Even if it is not a sponsored answer (yet) it is using data it found on random websites that it trusts are telling the truth. It is the dumbest game of telephone where the start of the chain is made up marking mumbo jumbo or straight fake, and each successive layer somehow speaks with more confidence and the end user thinks that because these LLMs have "access to all data from all time" that it means their answer will be correct.

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Post by faangguyindia »

barbazoo wrote: post #62
SoftTalker wrote: post #57

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It's probably mentioned favorably on fitness forums or sites that were crawled and included in ChatGPT training.

They certainly just mentioned it favourably here, even guaranteeing results!!!

So how did we acquire thousands of users? And user reviews, if it doesn't work?

Re: Amazon pilots ad services in ChatGPT

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Post by faangguyindia »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #65
barbazoo wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They certainly just mentioned it favourably here, even guaranteeing results!!!

Maybe they used an LLM powered bot to make the favorable comment here in order to guarantee the results.

And LLM powered bot also downloads our app and produces reviews?

It's an app on playstore which anyone can see including reviews.

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Post by lenerdenator »

ToucanLoucan wrote: post #44
lenerdenator wrote: post #32

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It is the job of management to figure out how to make gains over the next 90 days, not make gains sustainable. The money available for consumers to spend in wake of their unemployment is the problem for whenever that issue occurs. If there isn't a good way, you break the company up, sell it for scrap, give the resulting money to the shareholders, and they do whatever with it. It's the Jack Welch model.

> It is the job of management to figure out how to make gains over the next 90 days, not make gains sustainable. This is the cancer that has killed so many otherwise good businesses here.

Oh, no question. But realize, that is their mindset.

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Post by bluefirebrand »

gpm wrote: post #70
ppalata wrote: post #16

This is not meant to be tongue in cheek comment but has anybody figured out how the companies manage the "everyone is going to be replaced in a year" rhetoric while also working hard on ads that are clearly designed for humans to consume?

By making decisions under the assumption that society will continue. Even under the reduction to absurdity of everyone 's jobs being replaced in a year, there's still some system of allocating resources and they would still like more resources allocated to them. That system still likely bears resemblance to the current economy and convincing people/selling the ability to convince people is likely still a valuable abi…

> By making decisions under the assumption that society will continue

That seems completely at odds with "everyone will be replaced by AI"

> Even under the reduction to absurdity of everyone's jobs being replaced in a year, there's still some system of allocating resources and they would still like more resources allocated to them

I pretty strongly disagree. If everyone's jobs are replaced, I think society is over. I just don't believe that the UBI style future is going to play out in any kind of peaceful way

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Post by bayarearefugee »

faangguyindia wrote: post #75
barbazoo wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They certainly just mentioned it favourably here, even guaranteeing results!!!

So how did we acquire thousands of users? And user reviews, if it doesn't work?

Probably the same way Sam Altman "acquired" millions of Loopt users.

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Post by gpm »

bluefirebrand wrote: post #78
gpm wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By making decisions under the assumption that society will continue. Even under the reduction to absurdity of everyone 's jobs being replaced in a year, there's still some system of allocating resources and they would still like more resources allocated to them. That system still likely bears resemblance to the current economy and convincing people/selling the ability to convince people is likely still a valuable abi…

> By making decisions under the assumption that society will continue That seems completely at odds with "everyone will be replaced by AI" > Even under the reduction to absurdity of everyone's jobs being replaced in a year, there's still some system of allocating resources and they would still like more resources allocated to them I pretty strongly disagree. If everyone's jobs are replaced, I think society is over. I…

> That seems completely at odds with "everyone will be replaced by AI"

You yourself give an example of how it might not be, UBI.

The assumption doesn't have to be likely here. It can be the case that you think society is probably going to end - that UBI (nor any other measure to preserve society) won't be implemented or will fail. Whether that's today with AI, or yesteryear with being convinced society will end in premature nuclear armageddon. It's just that if society ends nothing you do has a notable impact (especially as a corporate entity which exists merely as an agreed upon abstraction, but even as a human) - so you might as well behave under the assumption that somehow society will persist whether through UBI or something else.

(I'd like to note somewhere that this entire post is also reasoning under the reduction to absurdity here that every job is performed by AI as of next year - not something I actually think is remotely likely.)

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