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Re: BMW Spider-Man in-car advertising

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Post by maxnevermind »

kridsdale1 wrote: post #23
rvz wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Part of BMW's value is/was the expectation of an upper middle class snob driving it BMWs are no where near for that "class". A Mercedes-Benz is for that and even they also put ads in their own dashboard screens. [0] So on HN-land, time to rule out BMWs, Chevrolets, Mercedes-Benz, Teslas, Volkswagens, Kias. What else? [0] https://www.motor1.com/news/797846/mercedes-screen-plays-ads...

My Lexus 2025 remains perfect and user friendly. I have all the online connected stuff enabled. Zero enshitification.

Why 2025 though? It didn't yet pass the test of time and there is not enough failure rate data on it. Toyotas(Lexus) do have serious quality issues too, rarely but that happens for certain models from time to time.

Re: BMW Spider-Man in-car advertising

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Post by wvenable »

DanOpcode wrote: post #66

Wouldn't it be fair if BMW at least shared the advertisement revenue with the car owners? It's so ugly that they first sell cars, and profit from that. And then they utilize the fleet of cars to squeeze out more revenue, even though that was never part of the contract to begin with. What right does BMW have to do that? If they found a new revenue source, it would be nice if they at least shared that with their custom…

> Wouldn't it be fair if BMW at least shared the advertisement revenue with the car owners?

No.

Re: BMW Spider-Man in-car advertising

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Post by maxgashkov »

c7b wrote: post #69
maxgashkov wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get all of these with more or less recent (2023) Mazda here in Japan, but all of them can be turned off in settings. Are they always-on in EU?

I haven't driven a recent model but afaik the answer for most is Yes, or at best you can disable them for the current ride and they turn on again automatically on every start.

That's quite insane then. Especially the lane departure warning / assist was downright dangerous in snowy conditions when the road markings became partially covered, I cannot imagine driving with that setting on all the time.

Re: BMW Spider-Man in-car advertising

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Post by DanOpcode »

dylan604 wrote: post #64
c7b wrote: post #62

It sounds awful, but it might not even make the top-5 of the most annoying/concering things you'll get in a new car (bought in the EU at least), many of which are now mandatory by regulation. What you'll also get is a camera that tracks your eye movements to play an alert when they're not on the road, an alarm when you drive over the allowed speed limit as determined by a camera, an alarm plus a mechanical yanking of…

My 2015 has none of these things. It has a rear camera, no telemetry, physical buttons, no internal nav, and no giant tough screen.

Same in my car from 2017. Also has rear camera, no infotainment other than bluetooth (so I guess it doesn't have any telemetry), physical buttons, no internal nav, no EU warning systems, no alerts that I need to turn off. Perfect car. Very peaceful to drive.

Re: BMW Spider-Man in-car advertising

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Post by bredren »

A month ago the highly upvoted blog entry [0] about Rivian’s rejection of CarPlay included this quote from Rivian’s Chief Software Officer, Wassym Bensaid:

   The challenge with screen mirroring solutions is that they take over every single pixel in the car, and that’s not the way we see ourselves interacting with our users.
Yes, it’s clear the companies’ see the way they want to “interact” with their customers is to force whatever content they please.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48769397

Re: BMW Spider-Man in-car advertising

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Post by DanOpcode »

narmiouh wrote: post #8

Samsung the same with their display on fridge, I'm not sure how is this legal and why someone thinks this is ok. These decision makers are meant to be educated people with may be at least a tiny bit of values in their lives...

On my Samsung TV recently on the start page some ad has started to show up, years after I bought it. No idea if I can get rid of it. I barely watch TV though, so I don't really care about wasting time trying to get rid of it. But I will for sure avoid Samsung in future TV purchases.

Re: BMW Spider-Man in-car advertising

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Post by polotics »

jaredhallen wrote: post #20
cautiouscat wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree that it’s abhorrent. However the doomer in me can’t help but think they do these things because consumers still buy them. You’d expect GE to go “Oh yeah well we don’t put ads on OUR fridges.” but it seems like in every industry they all just follow suit.

I suppose they've determined the revenue from the ads outweighs the potential competitive advantage.

Or they know it's a race to the bottom where as long as every brand's doing it, consumers have no choice...
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