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Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

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Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

#71
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, for regular people they're just starting to suddenly charge $1,500 fees. https://www.reddit.com/r/Starlink/comments/1uklz4q/starlink_...

> He then reviewed my billing history and account details, confirmed that my service address had never actually changed, and determined that nothing had been moved. As a result, he issued a full refund.

So not his service address, but a slightly different latitude/longitude would have received that.

Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

#72
post #6
post #3

Note that this is for the "aviation plan" which already requires six-digits equipment.

Yeah, for regular people they're just starting to suddenly charge $1,500 fees. https://www.reddit.com/r/Starlink/comments/1uklz4q/starlink_...

It sounds like this was a bug where slight updates to geolocation data (his address updated its physical location, probably to be more accurate) triggered a "location moved" process. Annoying, but not indicative of a new policy.

Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

#73
post #3

Note that this is for the "aviation plan" which already requires six-digits equipment.

Starlink should probably reverse course on this however, it's one thing to pay 10k for up to 20 guests on a small private jet vs a company like Delta with a fleet of 747s. Charge Delta 20k, charge this guy 10k.

Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

#74
post #70
post #41

There will be many price increases seeing as: -SpaceX raised $75bn in the IPO which will only last so long for a loss making high capital requirements company. -Then $25bn via bonds which have an annual interest rate repayment of $1.46 billion + repayment of the $25b (depending on bond length in years 2031,33,36,46 and 2056) -Morgan Stanley said: "In our model, we estimate SpaceX raising an average of $72bn annually…

SpaceX stock has also dropped below their IPO price. It doesn't change their current financials but it may make it more difficult to raise money in the future.

Will be interesting to see if Elon regrets only floating 4% [0] of the company at the IPO and not more seeing as it was over subscribed.

[0] https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-ipo-spcx-stock-free-f...

Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

#75
post #5

Won’t somebody please think of the luxury private aviation consumers?

A lot of people on this forum actually have investments in SpaceX, directly or indirectly, and they're interested in this stuff as a signal of the health of the company. Not everything has to be some little gripefest.

I reckon a lot of people on this forum have poorer health thanks to man-made pollution.

The more money a person has, the greater the chance they spend it in ways that increase environmental harm. (Travel is a big one, and buying large homes, remodeling homes, heating and cooling those homes, well beyond the private sufficiency that would be enough for us if we also supported public luxuries instead of playing Smaug)

Rather than corporate health I'm more concerned with ecosystem health (actual eco-system, as in interconnected living beings, not the word applied to software...), and care much more about investing in the performance of the ecosystems (based on land, water, and air) that sustain life in the region I have this tiny bit of influence on.

Corporations are fictions, a game we're playing. After they go up in smoke, the land will still be here.

Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

#76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it has already gone up in price two times since i got mine. i still happily pay for the convenience and safety of having internet on my campervan in the middle of a national forest. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

What harm are you worried about coming to in the middle of a national forest that having the internet could possibly save you from? You're in a van, for heaven's sakes. You can roll up the windows, lock the doors, and/or drive off from most dangers save a breakdown or a wildfire, and the internet won't save you from a wildfire. I've tent camped a lot on forest service land (and BLM land) both out west and in the east…

i can think of 1000 reasons to need to call for help. heck, two months ago i fell on my skateboard and shattered my femur at the hip. it sure was nice to be able to call 911 and have someone come pick me up given that i couldn't drive anywhere. my van was parked right at the skatepark and there was no way i was going to drive. obviously not skating in a national park, but it isn't out of the question to not have a major injury in a remote location.

but it isn't just about harm, as i said "convenience". i like being able to download detailed maps for trail hiking on-demand, and being off-grid and still able to be working (as my job requires me to be online).

Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

#77
post #70
post #41

There will be many price increases seeing as: -SpaceX raised $75bn in the IPO which will only last so long for a loss making high capital requirements company. -Then $25bn via bonds which have an annual interest rate repayment of $1.46 billion + repayment of the $25b (depending on bond length in years 2031,33,36,46 and 2056) -Morgan Stanley said: "In our model, we estimate SpaceX raising an average of $72bn annually…

SpaceX stock has also dropped below their IPO price. It doesn't change their current financials but it may make it more difficult to raise money in the future.

Yeah, up 50% over 5 days, back down to the starting line over the next 30 isn't a great outlook to my eye.

Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

#78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah but it still sounds like $1,500 demand fee was not a mistake, charging OP was the mistake. People first mentioned these fees at like $100... now you can go to Costco, grab a Starlink, and they'll randomly ask for $1,500 to actually start service. Congestion is a thing when each node needs to go to space, but it also feels like they're cashing in on years of "just move to a cabin in the woods and work off Starlin…

Isn't this fee specifically before they have you by the balls?

Not unless you had a potential $1500 fee top of mind before you moved...

Wanna guess if Starlink is advertising how insane these fees have gotten?

Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

#79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it has already gone up in price two times since i got mine. i still happily pay for the convenience and safety of having internet on my campervan in the middle of a national forest. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

What harm are you worried about coming to in the middle of a national forest that having the internet could possibly save you from? You're in a van, for heaven's sakes. You can roll up the windows, lock the doors, and/or drive off from most dangers save a breakdown or a wildfire, and the internet won't save you from a wildfire. I've tent camped a lot on forest service land (and BLM land) both out west and in the east…

Same. I also have never been confronted with a situation where 911 would've added to my safety in any way whatsoever. Why does 911 even exist?

Re: Starlink unlimited aviation plan to rise from $10k/month to $20k

#80
post #3

Note that this is for the "aviation plan" which already requires six-digits equipment.

They are attempting to juice revenue across all product cohorts, this is simply another datapoint. Customers are captive until there are more connectivity options.

“Juice?” As in they have the best product by a wide margin and are charging a totally fair price for it that reflects demand. Nobody flying private cares about the price of Starlink.

It’s worse if they are squeezing people in underserved rural areas… our monthly has gone down from €35 to €29 and still getting the same speed.

The second SpaceX offers direct-to-cell in our area we will switch to their service as we’ve never had any issues with it whereas the incumbent mobile/broadband providers regularly throttle even when we’re paying top tier prices.

Totally agree there needs to be more competition and preferably not from other billionaires … but until then, Starlink is great!

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