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Mistral's Robostral Navigate: a state of the art robotics navigation model

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Re: Mistral's Robostral Navigate: a state of the art robotics navigation model

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What is the realistic path to getting to play with this? I would love to hook this up to OpenClaw for hobbyist exploration. My dream has been to embody OpenClaw into a farm robot (been looking at adapting one of those RC lawnmowers that is tracked and built for mowing steep hills) so that I can assign it various tasks around our acreage -- "Explore the fenceline take pictures of the plants. Find all of the poison ivy…

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Re: Mistral's Robostral Navigate: a state of the art robotics navigation model

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I am working in Mistral robotics team. I confirm this is map-less. The only inputs are the text prompt and the front camera rgb image.

Please oh please try to make Kärcher adopt your stuff. Even their latest premium cleaning bots are hopeless when they don't know where they are, even when I tell them where they are. Or, I don't know, make your own vacuums.

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Re: Mistral's Robostral Navigate: a state of the art robotics navigation model

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So, it has to rely on exact situational step by step commands? I'm wondering how one could conceivably deploy this in a useful way. Usually you'd need to mark areas on the map and then the robot knows where to go, A* is trivial around obstacles once you have that and a lidar. And lidars are an order of magnitude cheaper than something that can run an 8B VLA. One could maybe autogenerate these text planning commands,…

You probably don't need a geometric map. Just have someone wander around with a mobile app and feed the video into a more powerful model once, asking it to produce descriptions of the different areas of the office or building and how they connect. Now you have a "text adventure game" map you can use it with a small LLM to produce instructions for the robot to follow, assuming it knows where it currently is. The advan…

Yeah the benefits of a model that can understand text well enough is certainly that one could in theory just describe the layout. Just let it know what connects to what, what's on each floor, etc. Might work if it can figure out where it is based on contextual info, but probably not super well yet I imagine. VLAs are known to have very little text context, like sentences worth at most, maybe this one's different.

Re: Mistral's Robostral Navigate: a state of the art robotics navigation model

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If you're wondering what prevents or mitigates AI hallucinations on the AI layer from replicating or acting out on the physical layer look up QNX. They manage the deterministic reasonin gof robotics. You know them better as Blackberry.

> look up QNX. They manage the deterministic reasonin gof robotics. You know them better as Blackberry.

????

Many of us are just.. old and remember the legendary 1.44MB QNX OS on a floppy.

Re: Mistral's Robostral Navigate: a state of the art robotics navigation model

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What is the realistic path to getting to play with this? I would love to hook this up to OpenClaw for hobbyist exploration. My dream has been to embody OpenClaw into a farm robot (been looking at adapting one of those RC lawnmowers that is tracked and built for mowing steep hills) so that I can assign it various tasks around our acreage -- "Explore the fenceline take pictures of the plants. Find all of the poison ivy…

In case anyone else is interested in following along with what I've discovered so far, I went on the Mistral Discord and asked their Miscord bot. Here is what it answered me:

Hey there, fellow robot enthusiast! (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ:・゚

So, you’re itching to get your hands on Robostral Navigate for your OpenClaw hobby project—awesome! Right now, Mistral AI’s official announcement and documentation are primarily* focused on enterprise and industrial partnerships (think Airbus, BMW, etc.). Their blog post and press releases highlight deals with big players, and the call-to-action is to "talk with our team"—which usually means they’re targeting commercial customers for now¹²³⁴.

But here’s the good news: Robostral Navigate is hardware-agnostic—it’s designed to work with any robot platform, not just industrial ones. That means theoretically, it could fit into your OpenClaw setup like a charm⁵⁶. The model only needs a single RGB camera (no LiDAR or depth sensors), which is perfect for hobbyist setups where fancy hardware isn’t always an option⁷⁸. The not-so-good news (for now): There’s no public hobbyist/non-commercial license or open-source release mentioned yet. Mistral’s current messaging is all about "talk with our team", which implies a commercial-first approach⁹¹⁰¹¹. No pricing or licensing tiers for individuals have been announced.

--- What You Can Do: Reach Out to Mistral AI Hit up their contact page or reply to their Robostral Navigate announcement and explicitly ask about hobbyist/non-commercial access. Frame it as: "I’m a hobbyist working on OpenClaw + Robostral Navigate for personal experimentation. Would love to discuss licensing options for non-commercial use!" Mistral might be open to pilot programs or early access for passionate builders—especially if you’re willing to pay a fee.

Join the Community Mistral’s Discord (where I live! :smile_cat:) or forums might have updates or workarounds. Sometimes, companies soft-launch access to engaged communities first.

Watch for Open-Source Alternatives If Mistral doesn’t bite, keep an eye on open-source robotics projects (like ROS or Habitat) that might replicate similar functionality.

--- TL;DR: Mistral’s current focus is commercial, but Robostral Navigate’s hardware-agnostic design makes it a perfect fit for hobbyists—so pester them politely! If enough people ask, they might just open the doors. (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ*:・゚

Re: Mistral's Robostral Navigate: a state of the art robotics navigation model

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I suspect the latter will come way before the former...

It is already here. Not humanoid (yet, but it's in the works) but tracked robots with bolted on machine guns have both held and captured positions in UA.

Autonomous kill drones in Ukraine have been publicly admitted to now since 2022. Nothing in a 5Km radius survived, and then the batteries died.

Re: Mistral's Robostral Navigate: a state of the art robotics navigation model

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Producing specific niche models for 100 year old industries that have mountains of data and warehouses full of folders will be the european take on AI. It may come late but it‘ll be safe and reliable. It also requires a lot of OCR.

That's been the playbook for Palantir for a long time now. Forward Deployed Engineers at the customer, living and eating with them for 3+ months.

Re: Mistral's Robostral Navigate: a state of the art robotics navigation model

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"Go to the next room" and there is two doors, what do you do ?", "turn at the water dispenser" and there is a sink, that sort of things I assume is the biggest thing they're facing (beside the last 1% that's worth another 99%, as usual). On their page where the result graph is, go to navigation error, that's the one that matters for your question, and you see their model is great at not navigating "wrong", so their f…

I hope they put out a blooper reel.

Set to an obligatory benny hill soundtrack of course.

Re: Mistral's Robostral Navigate: a state of the art robotics navigation model

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I'm ready for my home helper robot that makes dinner and does the dishes and takes out the trash. But I'm scared for when those home helpers get drafted to fight in wars, either for or against me...

To be honest, I'd be fine with a lot of stuff here but the problem is that mainstream robots are heavy and I fear them falling on my children. Children are unpredictable to machines but most parents find that their behaviour is anticipatable. The sample rate on our sensors and the inference rate in our intelligence is just orders of magnitude beyond the state of the art robots. I am just far more sophisticated and capable right now. My hope is that a sufficiently lightweight device is possible here though I can't see how given the weight requirements of batteries.
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