It's not like the true depth of field is important for the robot to plan when it's moving at turtle speed and can stop quickly.
Mistral's Robostral Navigate: a state of the art robotics navigation model
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Re: Mistral's Robostral Navigate: a state of the art robotics navigation model
#62It's not hard to put OpenClaw into a robot body (numerous YouTube videos showing people doing this sort of thing), but when you dig in and see what people have done, the actual movement portion is always the clunkiest part (and this matches my own experiments as-such as well). It feels like an 8B model like this would be perfect for solving pathing and navigation issues.
Anyone who may be more experienced with Mistral (or companies like them) -- are they interested in hobbyist builders who would be experimenting with things like this? Or are they primarily looking for commercial partners? I would be willing to pay a license fee to use the model in my experiments, but if I'm just one guy, I'm not sure they'd want to work with me unless I were building a business out of it (which I'm not).
Re: Mistral's Robostral Navigate: a state of the art robotics navigation model
#63It's implied, and I'm hoping it's true, that this is a map-less navigation. Which is impressive. This kind of task is much easier if you have a pre-captured map of the environment, but if they are doing this without a map it's great. Historically you were always faced with "The Kidnapped Robot" problem where robots that didn't know where they were couldn't navigate even a little bit. Here the robot appears to be able…
I am working in Mistral robotics team. I confirm this is map-less. The only inputs are the text prompt and the front camera rgb image.
Re: Mistral's Robostral Navigate: a state of the art robotics navigation model
#64If they can stand up a robotics software platform without US or China cloud ties, pair it with robotics hardware that is already in the process of commoditization, they'll be running in open doors in the EU manufacturing/logistics sector.
Re: Mistral's Robostral Navigate: a state of the art robotics navigation model
#65Mistral seems to be going wide and niche. Could be a smart strategy going forward.
Re: Mistral's Robostral Navigate: a state of the art robotics navigation model
#66I wonder how Mistral will prioritize its robotic development against its LLM development. We have either players that prioritize both (Google, AMI), or players that prioritize coding and agentic (OpenAI, Anthropic, ...).
Re: Mistral's Robostral Navigate: a state of the art robotics navigation model
#67It's implied, and I'm hoping it's true, that this is a map-less navigation. Which is impressive. This kind of task is much easier if you have a pre-captured map of the environment, but if they are doing this without a map it's great. Historically you were always faced with "The Kidnapped Robot" problem where robots that didn't know where they were couldn't navigate even a little bit. Here the robot appears to be able…
So if you can give it an instruction to "Find the elevator on this floor", could it walk around and build a map as it goes so it starts doing what a human would do to find the elevator.
As of now, the way these navigation models are setup, it assumes the instruction writer was intimately aware of useful visual navigational landmarks to give, which is not realistic for most use cases.
Re: Mistral's Robostral Navigate: a state of the art robotics navigation model
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am working in Mistral robotics team. I confirm this is map-less. The only inputs are the text prompt and the front camera rgb image.
Please oh please try to make Kärcher adopt your stuff. Even their latest premium cleaning bots are hopeless when they don't know where they are, even when I tell them where they are. Or, I don't know, make your own vacuums.
Re: Mistral's Robostral Navigate: a state of the art robotics navigation model
#69It's implied, and I'm hoping it's true, that this is a map-less navigation. Which is impressive. This kind of task is much easier if you have a pre-captured map of the environment, but if they are doing this without a map it's great. Historically you were always faced with "The Kidnapped Robot" problem where robots that didn't know where they were couldn't navigate even a little bit. Here the robot appears to be able…
I am working in Mistral robotics team. I confirm this is map-less. The only inputs are the text prompt and the front camera rgb image.