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Re: Meta steals a tactic from Tesla and builds data centers in tents

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The fact that these behemoths are being powered by gas generators is horrifying

It's not supposed to be permanent, but it also allows them to not waste time waiting on physical locations to be built. Given how highly competitive this all is, I'm not surprised at all.

There's nothing more permanent than a temporary solution.

Re: Meta steals a tactic from Tesla and builds data centers in tents

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post #7

This is madness. The polling is in and the public hates, positively hates AI. So of course the response is to do AI even more. https://newrepublic.com/article/209163/ai-industry-discoveri...

The public hates ai but also uses ai in mass quantities. Capitalism abides by your dollars not your voice. So people can decry ai all they want but if they keep using it, it won't go away. Even then it's probable that AI is a big enough productivity boost for certain industries that even if no consumers used AI, businesses would still prop AI up enough for it to live on.

The public is forced to use AI at work and outside of work because the corpos are determined in inserting their AI everywhere. Then the people come back home and see that their energy bills have doubled because of AI datacenters. Of course people hate AI.

Re: Meta steals a tactic from Tesla and builds data centers in tents

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post #34

The whole thing is like a video game: your construction and power are your limiting factors. We need to CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS and so on. It's interesting that this is such a limiter on the ground that SpaceX is pursuing AI satellites in space. Truly an incredible time to be alive.

> this is such a limiter on the ground that SpaceX is pursuing AI satellites in space

What is your source for this claim? It sounds like conjecture to me.

Neither power nor construction is easier in space than it is on Earth. Higher power means higher heat dissipation, which means higher-cost satellites or downsized AI hardware. Construction is monumentally more expensive when you have to ship GPUs and their associated infrastructure away from the planet where they're manufactured.

SpaceX's orbital compute will not compete against any ground-based AI capacity. It will most likely be used for edge processing of Starlink sensor data, either as an SAR solution, multiband jamming apparatus, or any other SDR applications used at the orbital scale. There is no other justification that I am aware of that necessitates space-based AI inference. The commercial space-based AI line is a glaringly obvious coverup.

Re: Meta steals a tactic from Tesla and builds data centers in tents

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is basically an argument about revealed preference, and these things are always more complicated than that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revealed_preference

revealed preference theory is typically applied to individuals or single decision-making units like a household, rather than worldwide aggregate market behavior. in any case, its not really that complicated in this case. - the ai companies have a billion active users and billions of dollars in revenue. - a poll comes back with 30% of respondents saying they are angry about ai. so, why do the ai companies keep doing a…

and so it was that the tail continued to wag the dog....

Re: Meta steals a tactic from Tesla and builds data centers in tents

#78

The fact that these behemoths are being powered by gas generators is horrifying

It's not supposed to be permanent, but it also allows them to not waste time waiting on physical locations to be built. Given how highly competitive this all is, I'm not surprised at all.

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Re: Meta steals a tactic from Tesla and builds data centers in tents

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post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not supposed to be permanent, but it also allows them to not waste time waiting on physical locations to be built. Given how highly competitive this all is, I'm not surprised at all.

Every time I do something that's not supposed to be permanent until I have time to implement a proper solution it lasts for years.

Temporarily using CO2 generators for the next 10 years
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