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Re: Meta steals a tactic from Tesla and builds data centers in tents

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Post by john_strinlai »

bluefirebrand wrote: post #19
john_strinlai wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How many of those people are just feeling like they have a gun to their heads? Use the AI or become unemployed and unemployable? in the context of answering the implied question of the parent (everyone hates it so why do they keep doing it?), it does not matter at all.

Of course it matters If a large proportion of people are only using AI because they are being threatened with unemployment if they don't, then there's going to be massive resentment building up You may think that doesn't matter, but it does. History has shown over and over that you can only keep a lid on massive social resentment for so long before things break

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Re: Meta steals a tactic from Tesla and builds data centers in tents

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Post by platevoltage »

john_strinlai wrote: post #12
josefritzishere wrote: post #2

This is madness. The polling is in and the public hates, positively hates AI. So of course the response is to do AI even more. https://newrepublic.com/article/209163/ai-industry-discoveri...

there are polls where a sample of people say they hate ai. on the other hand, there are a billion+ weekly active users. from a business perspective, which of those two statistics would you give more weight?

Yeah, and they're all willing participants. \s

Re: Meta steals a tactic from Tesla and builds data centers in tents

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Post by john_strinlai »

platevoltage wrote: post #23
john_strinlai wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

there are polls where a sample of people say they hate ai. on the other hand, there are a billion+ weekly active users. from a business perspective, which of those two statistics would you give more weight?

Yeah, and they're all willing participants. \s

>Yeah, and they're all willing participants. \s

this does not matter from the business perspective.

microsoft does not care that your company forces you to use their products. google does not care that your school forces you to use their products. TSMC does not care that you are forced to use their products when purchasing ~any electronics. etc.

Re: Meta steals a tactic from Tesla and builds data centers in tents

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Post by FerretFred »

As always, there are some very erudite comments here on HN, which is why I like the site so much. My erudite comment, or rather question, is this: why aren't these people using AI to solve all these problems? Surely it would be a good test of The Product and maybe it would give s[ck]eptics some food for thought?

Re: Meta steals a tactic from Tesla and builds data centers in tents

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Post by [deleted] »

john_strinlai wrote: post #12
josefritzishere wrote: post #2

This is madness. The polling is in and the public hates, positively hates AI. So of course the response is to do AI even more. https://newrepublic.com/article/209163/ai-industry-discoveri...

there are polls where a sample of people say they hate ai. on the other hand, there are a billion+ weekly active users. from a business perspective, which of those two statistics would you give more weight?

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Re: Meta steals a tactic from Tesla and builds data centers in tents

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Post by frognumber »

john_strinlai wrote: post #18
krige wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Out of the two? Probably the polls. "Active users" is blatantly a weasel metric.

odd choice, mind explaining it a bit more? why should a company listen to a gallup poll of ~1,500 people over their own internal metrics? do you think all types of companies should heed the advice of gallup polls over their own metrics, experience, and research?

I think good governance would listen to polls over metrics.

A good example of how this works is cocaine.

Capitalism and competition isn't always good governance. It works brilliantly in many places, such as restaurants or commodity goods. It fails completely for medicine or banking. It's in between for tech or education, but it's clearly failing for AI.

Re: Meta steals a tactic from Tesla and builds data centers in tents

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Post by righthand »

john_strinlai wrote: post #12
josefritzishere wrote: post #2

This is madness. The polling is in and the public hates, positively hates AI. So of course the response is to do AI even more. https://newrepublic.com/article/209163/ai-industry-discoveri...

there are polls where a sample of people say they hate ai. on the other hand, there are a billion+ weekly active users. from a business perspective, which of those two statistics would you give more weight?

But a billion active users != number of US citizens that take on the burden of AI. So go build your AI on land where your customers are if they like it so much.
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