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Re: GoPro warned it may not survive

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Post by bigfatkitten »

coldtea wrote: post #62
gonzalohm wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's interesting because in software it's usually the opposite. First to market is the winner even with an inferior product. See whatsapp and telegram

> First to market is the winner even with an inferior product. See whatsapp and telegram I don't think so. We use Excel not Lotus 1-2-3. iOS and Android, not Palm and Blackberry OSes or whatever mobile shit MS had first. We use Gmail not AOL. Google not Lycos or Altavista. Chrome not Netscape. Facebook and co, not Friendster or MySpace. Word not WordPerfect. Access not dBase. And regarding WhatsApp it's not ICQ or MS…

I’d suggest that a whole bunch of those were not improvements.

Re: GoPro warned it may not survive

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Post by coldtea »

bigfatkitten wrote: post #71
coldtea wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> First to market is the winner even with an inferior product. See whatsapp and telegram I don't think so. We use Excel not Lotus 1-2-3. iOS and Android, not Palm and Blackberry OSes or whatever mobile shit MS had first. We use Gmail not AOL. Google not Lycos or Altavista. Chrome not Netscape. Facebook and co, not Friendster or MySpace. Word not WordPerfect. Access not dBase. And regarding WhatsApp it's not ICQ or MS…

I’d suggest that a whole bunch of those were not improvements.

Which is orthogonal to what I'm responding to, which was that:

"First to market is the winner even with an inferior product. See whatsapp and telegram"

My point is that this not true, and that "first to market" usually losses.

If anything, what you suggest, reinforces it even more, since it implies that not only "first to market" often loses to a superior product, but even to players an inferior one.

Re: GoPro warned it may not survive

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Post by bigfatkitten »

coldtea wrote: post #72
bigfatkitten wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’d suggest that a whole bunch of those were not improvements.

Which is orthogonal to what I'm responding to, which was that: "First to market is the winner even with an inferior product. See whatsapp and telegram" My point is that this not true, and that "first to market" usually losses. If anything, what you suggest, reinforces it even more, since it implies that not only "first to market" often loses to a superior product, but even to players an inferior one.

I worded that inarticulately. Some of those first movers were absolute trash, though I agree that later and more commercially successful products are not always better.

Re: GoPro warned it may not survive

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Post by Liquid_Fire »

FerretFred wrote: post #68
plantain wrote: post #57

Weird case of the software letting the hardware down. You did the hard part guys!

Quik is an abomination. I have 3 cameras including the Mission 1 Pro and am satisfied with them. I go on long mucky country dog walks and they've never let me down. Getting the content off the cameras is horrible though: no, I don't want to upload 16Gb of data to your cloud using a poor, 2-bar 4G intermittent phone connection. No. I don't want special editing effects that an only be done in app. Ultimately I pop the…

I don't like the app either, but it's not too hard to transfer the files directly to the phone over WiFi without using any of the cloud/editing things.

What's annoying is you have to do it in three steps: first transfer it to the app's internal storage, and then save it out to actual files, then delete the internal storage; and you need 2x the disk space.

(Another annoying thing is in some countries they just disable the 5 GHz WiFi, so transfers end up taking forever. Very annoying when traveling, and if I lived in one of those countries I would have definitely returned it)

Re: GoPro warned it may not survive

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Post by wildrhythms »

Raed667 wrote: post #52

realistically most gopros ever sold are collecting dust in some drawer, and if you have a GoPro 5 from 10 years ago that does 4K video, there isn't really a need to keep buying new ones ...

I use a GoPro Hero Session on a motorcycle helmet mount and it's perfect. I bought it nearly 10 years ago. Still works great!

Re: GoPro warned it may not survive

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Post by xtiansimon »

ge96 wrote: post #37
ink_13 wrote: post #21

Curious parallel to iRobot (Roomba): first mover in new product segment, became genericized name for things in that segment, in the end, (possibly in GoPro's case) could not compete in that segment

I got a Insta 360 go 3S camera recently and damn the tech is amazing. What's sus is the mandatory phone activation/allowing permissions. Once I activated the camera I deleted the app.

I just bought an x5 to use with my moto and play around with.

Right now trying to figure out the aesthetics of 360. For one, everything that in real life looks huge, is not so impressive with 360 until you get really close. But at close distance even a beer can looks like a building.

Re: GoPro warned it may not survive

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Post by ge96 »

xtiansimon wrote: post #76
ge96 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got a Insta 360 go 3S camera recently and damn the tech is amazing. What's sus is the mandatory phone activation/allowing permissions. Once I activated the camera I deleted the app.

I just bought an x5 to use with my moto and play around with. Right now trying to figure out the aesthetics of 360. For one, everything that in real life looks huge, is not so impressive with 360 until you get really close. But at close distance even a beer can looks like a building.

Ha funny I see those on cars eg. Mustang GTs playing around in the streets

I think it's useful if you have that chase view where you pan around and show the other cars/motorcycles around you

Like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D65gz3UfvhE

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