Live data from Hacker News

Claude for Small Business

anthropic.com

71–80 of 524 posts

Re: Claude for Small Business

#72

I'm increasingly convinced that there's a killer app waiting for whoever can come up with a UI that makes claude code or codex accessible to the average user. Onboarding my non-software engineer teammates to it has super-charged them and essentially given them all their own personal developer that can automate tasks for them. Managing codebases, etc. is still a hassle though. 90% of the power of Excel was that it was…

> whoever can come up with a UI that makes claude code or codex accessible to the average user

You mean UX? Isn't Claude Cowork supposed to be 'Claude but for normies'? As for Claude Code / OpenAI Codex for non-programmers, believe Replit, Loveable, & others are trying & succeeding.

WhatsApp comes to mind in how its sole focus on replacing SMS (rather than Skype/AOL/MSN Messenger/YChat/GChat) meant it had no (user-facing) password/username, no elaborate signup, no login, no chat/friend requests, no sync etc. & became the biggest social network right under the nose of well resourced competitors with worldwide distribution, like Google & Facebook.

Re: Claude for Small Business

#73

I'm increasingly convinced that there's a killer app waiting for whoever can come up with a UI that makes claude code or codex accessible to the average user. Onboarding my non-software engineer teammates to it has super-charged them and essentially given them all their own personal developer that can automate tasks for them. Managing codebases, etc. is still a hassle though. 90% of the power of Excel was that it was…

I agree and that's what i'm working on (for businesses) - an all-one-one consolidated AI application that's setup and ready for non-technical users.

It's called Zenning AI - we're a small team in London, testing it with a few companies at the moment!

Re: Claude for Small Business

#75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Setting aside my personal grievances with their vibe-coded slop products surrounding the model, the problem for Anthropic is that they do need to charge 10 times as much for model access, but can't because DeepSeek exists and can actually be sustainably served at $20/mo. LLMs are certainly here to stay, for better or worse, but the people going hundreds of billions of dollars into debt perhaps not so much. (Unless th…

> can actually be sustainably served at $20/mo Excepts it comes with a terrible experience that's not sustainable for any serious day-to-day work that doesn't involve constant coffee breaks to wait for some tokens to get generated. No thanks. They don't have to live up to the hype to be useful tools, and for something that costs me annually what I make in a day I'm perfectly happy with the value I'm getting of out of…

> Excepts it comes with a terrible experience that's not sustainable for any serious day-to-day work that doesn't involve constant coffee breaks to wait for some tokens to get generated.

I think you may have misinterpreted what I was saying to be a reference to local models? I am not talking about local. You cannot run DeepSeek on consumer hardware, despite a bunch of people conflating "some 30b model trained on DeepSeek outputs == DeepSeek". But businesses can purchase fleets of GPUs capable of serving DeepSeek for an investment measured in millions rather than billions, and offer something 85% as good as Claude to customers while actually profiting on inference with a $20 subscription, without the massive overhead of training frontier models from scratch.

> (even if someone else is subsidizing it... for now)

That they are giving away something they cannot sustain is the literal entire point of my comment.

Re: Claude for Small Business

#77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reminds me of openai paying Kenyans $2/hr to flag violent and toxic stuff for them and a bunch of people ending up with ptsd

Source? Curious to know more.

There's tons of articles all over Google about this, it's not exactly hidden knowledge hoarded by this HN poster.

Example: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/dec/18/why-former-fac...

Re: Claude for Small Business

#78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reminds me of openai paying Kenyans $2/hr to flag violent and toxic stuff for them and a bunch of people ending up with ptsd

Source? Curious to know more.

> https://www.businessinsider.com/openai-kenyan-contract-worke...

> https://www.wsj.com/tech/chatgpt-openai-content-abusive-sexu...

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZS50KXjAX0

> https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-africa-66514287

> https://www.vice.com/en/article/openai-used-kenyan-workers-m...

Re: Claude for Small Business

#79

I'm increasingly convinced that there's a killer app waiting for whoever can come up with a UI that makes claude code or codex accessible to the average user. Onboarding my non-software engineer teammates to it has super-charged them and essentially given them all their own personal developer that can automate tasks for them. Managing codebases, etc. is still a hassle though. 90% of the power of Excel was that it was…

[dead]

Re: Claude for Small Business

#80

By coincidence, I've looked yesterday a small documentary [1] about the people tagging all those invoices to train theses models. For 120 €/month they are reading about 1000 to 4000 invoices per day and check and tag them for AI training. [1] https://www.arte.tv/en/videos/126831-000-A/arte-reportage/

Reminds me of openai paying Kenyans $2/hr to flag violent and toxic stuff for them and a bunch of people ending up with ptsd

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/aug/02/ai-chatbo...
Post reply on HN