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Coursera and Udemy are now one company

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Re: Coursera and Udemy are now one company

#71
That was another hype cycle, does everyone remember how they were supposed to replace all universities, and folks no longer needed higher education?

I have access via my employer and mostly they were never that different from other places like Pluralsight.

EDIT: typo, most => that

Re: Coursera and Udemy are now one company

#72
For context this is sort of where we started:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3119959

If you click the link to those original free courses, you get

   403 Forbidden
Don't know what it means, but Coursera made me sad a long time ago when it locked up all its value behind a paywall while getting rid of human interaction.

Re: Coursera and Udemy are now one company

#74
Lots of hate for coursera and udemy, but what about competitors? Are folks having good results elsewhere?

I enjoyed a course I took last summer on EdX; not a super polished experience, but the content was good and the projects were challenging.

I’ve enjoyed pluralsight in the past, but it is hit or miss whether it will have content you’re interested in.

I’m on mathacademy but that is text only and a very focused niche.

What’s the hip/trendy mooc these days? Who will eat courserudemy’s lunch?

Re: Coursera and Udemy are now one company

#75

For context this is sort of where we started: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3119959 If you click the link to those original free courses, you get 403 Forbidden Don't know what it means, but Coursera made me sad a long time ago when it locked up all its value behind a paywall while getting rid of human interaction.

Is this the same content? https://online.stanford.edu/free-courses

Re: Coursera and Udemy are now one company

#76
post #71

That was another hype cycle, does everyone remember how they were supposed to replace all universities, and folks no longer needed higher education? I have access via my employer and mostly they were never that different from other places like Pluralsight. EDIT: typo, most => that

>> ... were aupposed to replace ...

I would love to hear insights into what has gone wrong, or what are the lessons learnt.

Re: Coursera and Udemy are now one company

#77
The most annoying things for me about Coursera et al is that they aren't about education they are about job training. UC Berkeley (before that terrible law suit made them delete) had the best library of courses. Canvas et all has made it harder to get course materials, since everything is behind a paywall. Sometimes I want to learn some programming, but also I want to learn more math, history, philosophy, theology, literature, etc. and those non-job related subjects are largely missing from MOOCS.

Re: Coursera and Udemy are now one company

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post #76
post #71

That was another hype cycle, does everyone remember how they were supposed to replace all universities, and folks no longer needed higher education? I have access via my employer and mostly they were never that different from other places like Pluralsight. EDIT: typo, most => that

>> ... were aupposed to replace ... I would love to hear insights into what has gone wrong, or what are the lessons learnt.

Nobody cares how much learning you did but how hard it was to get into the university you got your piece of paper from. Coding bootcamps eventually figured this out so they started to have selective admissions. Universities like Harvard have rampant grade inflation and you have to try to fail out of yet still have prestige due to selective admissions.

Re: Coursera and Udemy are now one company

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Odersky ;) "Model Thinking" was great! And I really liked the gamification course by Kevin Werbach (The topic was still hot back then) - something I used extensively at my start up.

Didn’t the gamification course have one of the relatively few well done peer assessments? The course was good, but it’s interesting now that gamification features completely turn me off now on any platform or program attempting to motivate me toward a specific end, regardless of whether that goal is in my interest or the interest of someone else trying to make money.

Yes the peer assessments really did work.

And yeah: Gamification became shallow real fast. Even the Gamification techniques in games! I think the reason is that everyone focused on adopting the easy part (checkboxes, achievements, levels) while skipping the real core (player types, intrinsic motivation)... But the course even warned about this level of shallow implementation.

(Btw: A few months later I enrolled in a course on educational psychology on coursera that was supposed to showcase some SOTA techniques... They canceled it because they could not work out the details. I think academia is often just not good at pulling things off.)

Re: Coursera and Udemy are now one company

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post #74

Lots of hate for coursera and udemy, but what about competitors? Are folks having good results elsewhere? I enjoyed a course I took last summer on EdX; not a super polished experience, but the content was good and the projects were challenging. I’ve enjoyed pluralsight in the past, but it is hit or miss whether it will have content you’re interested in. I’m on mathacademy but that is text only and a very focused nich…

In the last 3-4 years, I've mostly been using niche platforms: frontendmasters, ui.dev (fireship now?), boot.dev, codecrafters, a couple of others. And books. I always have a Manning subscription running.

I've mostly focused on job-relevant upskilling. If I wanted to learn something outside my immediate area, in a university-course-like experience, I'd probably go back to coursera.

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