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Coursera and Udemy are now one company

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Re: Coursera and Udemy are now one company

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We have free coursera at work. But I really hate it because it enforces random deadlines on you. Even though the courses are completely prerecorded and absolutely don't need any kind of deadlines. I just want to study at my own pace. I also hate all the gamification.

Many people need deadlines or their own pace ends up being never.

Then have that as a feature, don’t force it

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Many people need deadlines or their own pace ends up being never.

Then have that as a feature, don’t force it

If they don't force it people won't complete the course. While that at first sounds good - they collect money - long term people who complete courses are your best marketing as they tell others and so completion is importation and thus the deadlines.

Though how much force is best is subject to debate.

Re: Coursera and Udemy are now one company

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Coursera used to be great, the value was unparalleled. Great specializations too; I learned Python and data science techniques through the platform during the COVID pandemic. Lately though they've been pushing for courses to have AI dialogue modules, where an AI agent asks you questions about the content. These modules are absolute slop garbage, often asking repetitive questions that have no grounding in actual course content. I got sick of this and dropped my subscription about a month ago.

Re: Coursera and Udemy are now one company

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Any courses you would particularly recommend? I always found that Udemy's vast catalogue made it hard to actually pick a course.

Yes! I have had unfettered access to it via a couple employers and the Illusion of Choice is real. The best thing they could do (for users like me, not sure if this is true for the majority) would be to go back to being a curator of quality and not a marketplace for anyone to make a course.

Being a big marketplace is their big differentiator from sites like masterclass

But at the same time I agree that they aren't doing enough to surface the high quality courses

Re: Coursera and Udemy are now one company

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then have that as a feature, don’t force it

If they don't force it people won't complete the course. While that at first sounds good - they collect money - long term people who complete courses are your best marketing as they tell others and so completion is importation and thus the deadlines. Though how much force is best is subject to debate.

> long term people who complete courses are your best marketing as they tell others and so completion is importation and thus the deadlines

I don't see why completing courses is a customer satisfaction criterion. I've had many courses that I didn't complete, yet I was quite satisfied with the content and could recommend it to friends.

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It's been a while since I took a Coursera course but I LOVED it at the beginning. Between Machine Learning, the (numerical) optimisation courses and NAND-To-Tetris (even for the platform alone) it had so many great courses to pick from.

I did Andrew Ng's old Machine Learning, Obarsky's Scala course, the Ng's Deep Learning specialization, Nand to Tetris part 1 and a small Data Science course which wasn't very good. I think my very first course was "Model Thinking" course, but I never took the exam there. I also tried the sequel to the Scala course at one point, and the Cryptography course, but I dropped out from those after finding out they were a bi…

The model thinking course was interesting but it should have had a follow up that was much more than a freshman survey course treatment of each model.

Reading online it seems like most people got the impression that it was establishing that all models are essentially useless. Instead it was showing that each of these models were an extremely efficient way to understand some dynamic situations, but that it’s still absurd to focus on only one model when trying to understand the world.

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I did Andrew Ng's old Machine Learning, Obarsky's Scala course, the Ng's Deep Learning specialization, Nand to Tetris part 1 and a small Data Science course which wasn't very good. I think my very first course was "Model Thinking" course, but I never took the exam there. I also tried the sequel to the Scala course at one point, and the Cryptography course, but I dropped out from those after finding out they were a bi…

Odersky ;) "Model Thinking" was great! And I really liked the gamification course by Kevin Werbach (The topic was still hot back then) - something I used extensively at my start up.

Didn’t the gamification course have one of the relatively few well done peer assessments? The course was good, but it’s interesting now that gamification features completely turn me off now on any platform or program attempting to motivate me toward a specific end, regardless of whether that goal is in my interest or the interest of someone else trying to make money.
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