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FTC action against Match and OkCupid for deceiving users, sharing personal data

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Re: FTC action against Match and OkCupid for deceiving users, sharing personal data

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Post by deltoidmaximus »

duped wrote: post #32
avgDev wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reminds of being a young guy and feeling annoyed when girls are being let into clubs for free without waiting in line, and I had to wait in line and pay. Sometimes I could not get in because the club was "full", but the girls would be allowed in.

It used to be that promoters were paid per woman they brought to the club and nothing for men, and they would in turn charge a cover per man. No idea how these businesses operate now. I'm sure there's still sliding scales of sliminess based on the quality of the club and its management.

Aren't they going out of business in large numbers? I'm not sure how much of that has to do with the dating scene as much as it has to do with younger people drinking less though.

Re: FTC action against Match and OkCupid for deceiving users, sharing personal data

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Post by ImJamal »

rose-knuckle17 wrote: post #47
ImJamal wrote: post #22

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Just guessing, but the third party company did not break a law or go against their privacy policy. Reuters says it is "Clarifai" if you wanted to know. https://www.reuters.com/world/match-group-settles-us-ftc-cla...

no. but it seems possible, or even likely, that they used the pictures to train targeting for military drones (think Project Insight from Captain America:Winter Soldier). I'm not sure privacy violations are the biggest concern here.

Maybe privacy concerns aren't your biggest concerns, but they are for the FTC for a case like this.

Re: FTC action against Match and OkCupid for deceiving users, sharing personal data

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Post by array_key_first »

alistairSH wrote: post #52
mikebenfield wrote: post #49

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You've missed the point. The point is that the women in question demand it. There is no shortage of women on social media ranting about how lazy or cheap men are who want to do coffee or drinks for a first date. Or especially a walk. If you suggest a walk for a first date there's a strong chance you'll never hear from her again.

So, you've saved yourself the time and expense of a shared walk and two cups of coffee. Isn't that a win? Unless you are just looking to get laid, in which case, suck it up and buy dinner, I guess.

Yes, but the point is that people are not successful on these apps because of those expectations. A lot of people have sort of let the whole online dating thing go straight to their head. And now, theyd rather die alone than be slightly uncomfortable for a few minutes.

Re: FTC action against Match and OkCupid for deceiving users, sharing personal data

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Post by reaperducer »

mlmonkey wrote: post #25

All of these sites do shady shit. I'm so glad I'm no longer single. I signed up for eHarmony with a unique email address dedicated to that site. After wasting 6 months, I chose to delete my account. Lo and behold, soon spam started to show up on this account, as if the floodgates had been opened. It was a unique account that I had not used anywhere else just for this specific reason, and my hunch was justified.

After wasting 6 months, I chose to delete my account.

Lo and behold, soon spam started to show up on this account, as if the floodgates had been opened.

Facebook is also guilty of this.

I set up a Facebook account for a relative around 2006. The e-mail address is name_facebook@ a domain that I control.

Every six months or so, Facebook will send out almost daily e-mails for a month saying "Person x commented on your post!" or some variant. You know how I know this relative of mine didn't make a new post?

He's been dead since 2011.

Re: FTC action against Match and OkCupid for deceiving users, sharing personal data

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Post by RiverCrochet »

alsetmusic wrote: post #45
CoastalCoder wrote: post #23

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I'm wondering if this means 3 million copyright violations that could be litigated in civil court.

> I'm wondering if this means 3 million copyright violations that could be litigated in civil court. Outstanding observation! Class action suit in the making. Only lawyers get rich, but still could hurt the offenders financially.

Look, I like the occasional $2 checks in the mail. For now, I can buy a candy bar with it.

Re: FTC action against Match and OkCupid for deceiving users, sharing personal data

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Post by [deleted] »

ImJamal wrote: post #73
rose-knuckle17 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

no. but it seems possible, or even likely, that they used the pictures to train targeting for military drones (think Project Insight from Captain America:Winter Soldier). I'm not sure privacy violations are the biggest concern here.

Maybe privacy concerns aren't your biggest concerns, but they are for the FTC for a case like this.

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Re: FTC action against Match and OkCupid for deceiving users, sharing personal data

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Post by busymom0 »

RiverCrochet wrote: post #76
alsetmusic wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm wondering if this means 3 million copyright violations that could be litigated in civil court. Outstanding observation! Class action suit in the making. Only lawyers get rich, but still could hurt the offenders financially.

Look, I like the occasional $2 checks in the mail. For now, I can buy a candy bar with it.

Here in Canada, even a chocolate bar has now gone up to $3 at Walmart

Re: FTC action against Match and OkCupid for deceiving users, sharing personal data

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Post by neonstatic »

Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #31
junkaccount100 wrote: post #7

Throwaway account. I tried these sites a couple of times each in the past (the UK versions at least). I'm married now and fortunately don't have to deal with "the dating scene" and how awful it is/was. When I signed up for Match, about ten minutes into the process my account suddenly changed to that of another man including different photo, descriptions, orientation etc. I don't know why this happened but it was abso…

I met my current wife on OKC in 2010, before online dating became an utter cesspool. I've been out of the dating scene for 16 years now, but based on what I see on social media, I think online dating sucks today for three reasons. 1. Many men (Not all, but many) are there simply because they want to get laid. They're not looking for a relationship, they're looking for a hook-up, and they're not honest about their int…

> Criticizes pathological behavior of some men openly

> Puts a disclaimer before criticizing pathological behavior of some women

Nothing will improve until we as men stop gatekeeping ourselves from stating facts openly, without apologies. Women can be very shitty, often are, and that has to be said without the need to preface it or soften the blow.

Re: FTC action against Match and OkCupid for deceiving users, sharing personal data

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Post by busymom0 »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #62
stanford_labrat wrote: post #54

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> They're in a sticky spot where their most successful customer is one that they will never see another dime from, and there's not really a way around it. naive question: why has no one made an app with the reverse incentive structure? i understand that the current business model is much more lucrative...but i feel like with how fed up people are with the inability of modern online dating to provide quality, long-las…

> why has no one made an app with the reverse incentive structure? 1. Network effects. An app isn't like a new local business where people will naturally wander in. They may already exist but the market's captured everyone on the skinner box services 2. App stores. The deeper you look into the things needed to advertise as a mobile app, the more obvious it becomes. You need milliions up front just to be featured in y…

Also note that as of now, Apple developer guidelines warns specifically of creating more dating apps. They consider it spam.
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