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Alright, let's see Codex 5.3 create a competitor to postmarketOS (without just copying the homework of other devs). If you believe in the technology so much, put it to the test, see what it can really do.
Fun that you had to caveat it with some hand wavy homework bull. Gives you a nice get out of jail free clause when inevitably an AI writes an OS.
Not really. If AI is just copying someone else's code, it's not really designing it is it. If you want it to truly design something, it needs to be designing it using the same constraints that the human engineers would face, which means it doesn't get the luxury of copying from others, it has to design things like device drivers with the same level of information that human engineers get (e.g. device specifications and information gathered through trial and error).
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I don't work on open source stuff but I work at a financial institution and genai has been a huge productivity boost. I can easily write 2x - 5x more code than before genai.
Do you bring home 2x-5x more money every month then? Does your company make 2x 5x more profits? The vibecoder paradox, everyone is 10x as productive, no one can show even a 1.2x increase in anything (besides bot generated comments, traffick and other background noise)
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Fun that you had to caveat it with some hand wavy homework bull. Gives you a nice get out of jail free clause when inevitably an AI writes an OS.
> Fun that you had to caveat it with some hand wavy homework bull. Not really. If AI is just copying someone else's code, it's not really designing it is it. If you want it to truly design something, it needs to be designing it using the same constraints that the human engineers would face, which means it doesn't get the luxury of copying from others, it has to design things like device drivers with the same level of…
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I don't work on open source stuff but I work at a financial institution and genai has been a huge productivity boost. I can easily write 2x - 5x more code than before genai.
Is the software you're working on useful? Care to share the link so we can take a look?
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I understand there's an avalanche of vibe slop PRs. But to be clear their AI instance is as clear-cut as can be. Their instance IS INDEED to "prevent AI-assisted code to reach their codebase". > The following is not allowed in postmarketOS: > Submitting contributions fully or in part created by generative AI tools to postmarketOS. source: https://docs.postmarketos.org/policies-and-processes/develop...
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As per their rules, their instance is not only against entire PRs but any AI assisted code.
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Reminds me how one year ago people were saying "sure, GPT-4o can write a function, but try to make it write a whole application"
Sure, AI has developed quickly, but let's see it take on a real engineering challenge, rather than regurgitating boilerplate code. Writing device drivers from incomplete specs is much harder than "writing a whole application" where the specs are clearly defined and there's a lot more example code to reference. If you believe in AI so much, and believe that it's unreasonable for postmarketOS to not want to use it, put…
What does a developer who writes a driver from incomplete specs do? Writes some values in some registers, sees how the device behaves, updates the spec. Rinse and repeat. Sounds exactly the kind of stuff coding agents thrive at - a verifiable loop. And they can do it 24x7 until done.
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It's fine for a project to have moral/ideological leanings, it's only weird if you insist that project teams should be entirely amoral.
The main reason open source projects exist at all is because of people who started them with quite often fringe ideological leanings. Just look at the GNU project.
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Exactly, you can use it for some tasks. But why "explicitly forbid generative AI". If you use AI to make repetitive tasks less repetitive, and clean up any LLM-ness afterwards, would they notice or care? I find blanket bans inhibitive, and reeks of fear of change, rather than a real substantive stance.
> and clean up any LLM-ness afterwards That never happens. It's actually easier to write the code from scratch and avoid LLMness altogether.
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as a kernel developer, I use LLMs for some tasks, but can say it is not there yet to write real kernel space code
Absolutely. But at the same time I cannot imagine reverting to code with no help of LLMs. Asking stackoverflow and waiting for hours to get my question closed down instead of asking LLM? No way.
And doesn't that bother you a little?
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It is about Air France 447, but also draws parallels to AI and self-driving cars