Windows 8 Doesn’t Want Your App. Try Again Later • Hacker News Board

Re: Windows 8 Doesn’t Want Your App. Try Again Later

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Post by WayneDB » Sat, Oct 27, 2012, 1:51 PM UTC

run4yourlives wrote: post #64

WayneDB wrote: post #61

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You obviously don't understand smartphone tech because it's just a computer. > Why can't we tackle people during a soccer game? Same shit. Not really. There are no rules against complaining about Apple's rules. Customer complaints change rules . Apathetic people such as yourself, who just roll over and take it, are part of the problem. > My phone is a fucking phone! It's not a damn religious crusade. Then why did you…

Customer complaints change rules. You are a developer, not a customer. Apathetic people such as yourself, who just roll over and take it, are part of the problem. There is no problem from a consumer point of view. You seem to be failing to understand this. I have little to no need for your no-name unregistered app. Why should the entire ecosystem change to benefit you? Then why did you respond to my original comment…

> ...play by the already established rules.

That's weak sauce. If nobody ever complained about anything and just played by the rules, nothing would ever change.

> The apple...closed markets are designed 100% to be the benefit of the consumer...

Oh please dude, gimme a break. Hogwash. Everybody knows that captive markets are lucrative and that Apple's 30% cut makes them a pretty profit. Google's market may be closed, but their mobile platform is about as open as can be. Android itself doesn't stop anybody from side-loading or using a competing store.

Everybody knows how Apple likes to do things. There's no denying it. They want absolute control over their platform because it's good for them.

Re: Windows 8 Doesn’t Want Your App. Try Again Later

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Post by code_duck » Sat, Oct 27, 2012, 2:24 PM UTC

smackfu wrote: post #41

mgkimsal wrote: post #28

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The way it was written was as a requirement: "Requirement 3.2: the app crashes" 3.2 as a reason something is rejected ("app crashes") makes more sense. I wasn't sure if they're written it that casually, as it was quoted as such.

Yes, presumably that was in a section of reasons for rejection. It would be rather silly to assume there was a requirement that apps crash.

I believe it makes sense, in the context of Windows. They want users to feel as if they're in a comfortable and familiar environment.

Re: Windows 8 Doesn’t Want Your App. Try Again Later

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Post by WayneDB » Wed, Nov 07, 2012, 12:04 AM UTC

bitwize wrote: post #63

WayneDB wrote: post #59

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You don't download software off the net unless it's vetted first by Apple? Have you never installed Chrome, Office or Photoshop? Maybe you haven't considered the alternative. It's something that Apple users don't really get much of, but there's a thing called choice . Why can't we have an app store AND allow side-loading? That'd be a nice choice. That way, the people who want to trade freedom for security can do so a…

Just about the only proven method to really mitigate the malware problem is with whitelisting. In the future, virtually all end-user computing platforms will be mandatorily whitelisted. The company I just left was in the process of requiring whitelisting (through Bit9) for ALL Windows AND Linux desktops. Which is a pain in the ass if you're a dev, but when it comes down to that or watching all your IP go across the s…

Whitelisting is a wholly different concept than being locked into a single vendor's app store.

Being forced to abide by a single whitelist provider would be similar, but I personally won't be buying into those platforms and if I don't have a choice, I'll be jailbreaking...barring that, well we simply wouldn't be living in a free society at that point so I think I'd have bigger issues to deal with than computing freedom.