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Followup to "I bought more than 1 million Facebook data entries for $5"

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Re: Followup to "I bought more than 1 million Facebook data entries for $5"

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Post by VexXtreme »

jiggy2011 wrote: post #38
swalsh wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This makes me remember a thought I was having a while ago. I'm not a fan of regulation on the internet, but there's some regulations i'd really like to see for the purpose of creating a more competitive atmosphere. They're probably too extreme today, but in the future I can see them being necessary as our lives increasingly become more digital. One of them is that all data I create, which is stored, I should have acc…

There's a few practical problems with creating that kind of legislation though. How do you decide who has to comply with it? Every time I build a website that collects any data from users at all, do I have to also create an API for accessing that data? Bigger companies such as FB and Google would most likely just move stuff offshore to get around this anyway.

Actually, Google DOES have data export features.

They can be found here: https://www.google.com/settings/exportdata

Re: Followup to "I bought more than 1 million Facebook data entries for $5"

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Post by VexXtreme »

swalsh wrote: post #25
DanielBMarkham wrote: post #8

You really don't want to mess with the Facebook police. They'll delete your life. I wish I had something more substantive to say here, but the problem is that we give Facebook an extraordinarily huge power in our personal lives. It's not just some random web service.

This makes me remember a thought I was having a while ago. I'm not a fan of regulation on the internet, but there's some regulations i'd really like to see for the purpose of creating a more competitive atmosphere. They're probably too extreme today, but in the future I can see them being necessary as our lives increasingly become more digital. One of them is that all data I create, which is stored, I should have acc…

I really don't understand what everyone is moaning about. You all entrusted companies like Facebook (and remember, companies are there to make money for their shareholders) with a massive portion of your social lives and now you're complaining about the fact that those same companies could shut your social life down in an instant. Well guess what, they do indeed own all "your" data. The moment you agreed to their TOS and started uploading pieces of your private lives online, you confirmed that you were ok with them owning it.

I've personally never felt comfortable with having my social life online and that's why I've opted out of using Facebook, Google+ or any other social networking services for that matter. My social life doesn't suffer because of that at all, in fact, my bond with the people who are close to me has become even stronger due to a lack of social noise in my life. I see my best buddies a few times a week anyway and when I really need to talk to someone else, I can just email them or give them a call. The whole Facebook/Google+/[throw in random SNS here] thing is a joke.

Re: Followup to "I bought more than 1 million Facebook data entries for $5"

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Post by runjake »

jiggy2011 wrote: post #38
swalsh wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This makes me remember a thought I was having a while ago. I'm not a fan of regulation on the internet, but there's some regulations i'd really like to see for the purpose of creating a more competitive atmosphere. They're probably too extreme today, but in the future I can see them being necessary as our lives increasingly become more digital. One of them is that all data I create, which is stored, I should have acc…

There's a few practical problems with creating that kind of legislation though. How do you decide who has to comply with it? Every time I build a website that collects any data from users at all, do I have to also create an API for accessing that data? Bigger companies such as FB and Google would most likely just move stuff offshore to get around this anyway.

Google already provides for this to some extent:

http://www.dataliberation.org/

Re: Followup to "I bought more than 1 million Facebook data entries for $5"

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Post by DanielBMarkham »

potatolicious wrote: post #64
loopdoend wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you not read the part about padding his friend list with strangers at the end there?

What's wrong with wanting to interact with strangers? We've built entire startups around that - Meetup, GrubWithUs, Couchsurfing, etc, all come to mind. God didn't come down and carve the Approved And Valid Contexts of Facebook Friending on a piece of rock.

It is very interesting (and scary) how many things that we kludged together on the net that the new generation are finding as "must haves"

Re: Followup to "I bought more than 1 million Facebook data entries for $5"

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Post by eugenez »

flurpitude wrote: post #49
tlrobinson wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FYI Facebook has two-factor auth as well: https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150172618258920 .

I'm not very keen on those two-factor approaches like this that use text messages to your phone. The text message often does not arrive. And in some places you have to pay to receive text messages so it can cost money to log in. It would be preferable if they could just use the Google Authenticator app like a few other sites do.

There is a 2-factor code generator built into the Facebook app for iOS and Android specifically to help with SMS deliverability problems. Have a look at https://www.facebook.com/help/270942386330392/

Re: Followup to "I bought more than 1 million Facebook data entries for $5"

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Post by doesnt_know »

VexXtreme wrote: post #72
swalsh wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This makes me remember a thought I was having a while ago. I'm not a fan of regulation on the internet, but there's some regulations i'd really like to see for the purpose of creating a more competitive atmosphere. They're probably too extreme today, but in the future I can see them being necessary as our lives increasingly become more digital. One of them is that all data I create, which is stored, I should have acc…

I really don't understand what everyone is moaning about. You all entrusted companies like Facebook (and remember, companies are there to make money for their shareholders) with a massive portion of your social lives and now you're complaining about the fact that those same companies could shut your social life down in an instant. Well guess what, they do indeed own all "your" data. The moment you agreed to their TOS…

I also have never used any social services such as Facebook/Google+/Twitter because I consider my privacy important and it's tempting to just sit back and say "I told you so" smugly. That isn't really going to accomplish much though. People really should be pushing for stronger privacy laws and companies that choose to base their business around collecting personal data should be held responsible for protecting it.

Re: Followup to "I bought more than 1 million Facebook data entries for $5"

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Post by wmeredith »

DanielBMarkham wrote: post #8

You really don't want to mess with the Facebook police. They'll delete your life. I wish I had something more substantive to say here, but the problem is that we give Facebook an extraordinarily huge power in our personal lives. It's not just some random web service.

I certainly don't; I haven't given them anything. Google on the other hand...

Re: Followup to "I bought more than 1 million Facebook data entries for $5"

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Post by witoldc »

DanielBMarkham wrote: post #8

You really don't want to mess with the Facebook police. They'll delete your life. I wish I had something more substantive to say here, but the problem is that we give Facebook an extraordinarily huge power in our personal lives. It's not just some random web service.

You can post your cat and dinner pics on G+.

It's not the end of the world if they ban you.

Aside from people using it to sell things/their business, most people will not lose much of anything. In fact, they will probably gain, since they won't be spending XXX minutes on FB each month.

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