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Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by bookofjoe »

javawizard wrote: post #51
onion2k wrote: post #6

Microsoft have a goal that states they want to get to " 1 engineer, 1 month, 1 million lines of code. " You can't do that if you write the code yourself. That means they'll always be chasing the best model. Right now, that's Opus 4.5.

I used to work at a place that had the famous Antoine de Saint-Exupéry quote painted near the elevators where everyone would see it when they arrived for work: Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. I miss those days.

Original French: "Il semble que la perfection soit atteinte non quand il n'y a plus rien à ajouter, mais quand il n'y a plus rien à retrancher".

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by rkomorn »

bookofjoe wrote: post #71
javawizard wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to work at a place that had the famous Antoine de Saint-Exupéry quote painted near the elevators where everyone would see it when they arrived for work: Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. I miss those days.

Original French: "Il semble que la perfection soit atteinte non quand il n'y a plus rien à ajouter, mais quand il n'y a plus rien à retrancher".

"Il semble" sure gives the quote a different tone to me.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by zzbzq »

dataviz1000 wrote: post #10

I installed Claude Code yesterday after the quality of VSCode Copilot Chat continuously is getting worse every release. I can't tell yet if Claude Code is better or not but VSCode Copilot Chat has become completely unusable. It would start making mistakes which would double the requests to Claude Opus 4.5 which in January is the only model that would work at all. I spent $400 in tokens in January. I'll know better in…

Not my experience at all. Copilot launched as a useless code complete, is now basically the same as anything. It's all converging. The features are converging, but the features barely matter anyway when Opus is just doing all the heavy lifting anyway. It just 1-shots half the stuff. Copilot's payment model where you pay by the prompt not by the token is highly abusable, no way this lasts.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by chillfox »

walt_grata wrote: post #68
reactordev wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft never got that memo. They still measure LoC because it’s all MBAs.

Fuck is there a way to have that degree and not be clueless and toxic to your colleagues and users.

All evidence continues to point towards NO.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by richsouth »

onion2k wrote: post #6

Microsoft have a goal that states they want to get to " 1 engineer, 1 month, 1 million lines of code. " You can't do that if you write the code yourself. That means they'll always be chasing the best model. Right now, that's Opus 4.5.

Because as we all know, lines of code == quality of code.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by root_axis »

sarchertech wrote: post #56
root_axis wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More likely those 100k engineers would shrink to 10k.

Thats still 10 billion lines of code per month if that insane metric were a real goal (it’s not). That’s 200 Windows’ worth of code every month.

Totally agreed. The numbers are silly. My only point is that you don't need 100k engineers if you're letting Claude dump all that code into production.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by zzbzq »

oefrha wrote: post #43

I try GitHub Copilot every once in a while, and just last month it still managed to produce diffs with unbalanced curly braces, or tried to insert (what should be) a top-level function into the middle of another function and screw up everything. This wasn’t on a free model like GPT 4.1 or 5-mini, IIRC it was 5.2 Codex. What the actual fuck? Only explanation I can come up with is that their pay-per-request model made…

You're not using the good models and then blaming the tool? Just use claude models.

Copilot's main problem seems to be people don't know how to use it. They need to delete all their plugins except the vscode, CLI ones, and disable all models except anthropic ones.

The Claude Code reputation diff is greatly exaggerated beyond that.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by vdm »

mcintyre1994 wrote: post #38
hpdigidrifter wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can't speak for copilot but Gemini cli is unbelievably bad compared to Gemini web. CC has some magic secret sauce and I'm not sure what it is. My company pays for both too, I keep coming back to Claude all-round

Claude Code is one of a very few AI tools where I genuinely think the people at the company who build it use it all the time.

s/AI//

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by m-schuetz »

arcologies1985 wrote: post #70
GaProgMan wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

True story: a lot of the Microsoft engineers I interact with actually do use Apple hardware. Admittedly, I onto interact with the devs on the .NET (and related technologies) departments. Specifically WHY they use Apple hardware is something I can only speculate on. Presumably it's easier to launch Windows on Mac than the other way around, and they would likely need to do that as .NET and its related technologies are…

Probably because "Windows Modern Standby" makes laptops unusable by turning them on in your backpack and cooking them. https://youtu.be/OHKKcd3sx2c

I still don't understand how Microsoft lets standby remain broken. I can never leave the PC in my bedroom ij standby because it will randomly wake up and blast the coolers.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by funkyfiddler369 »

richsouth wrote: post #75
onion2k wrote: post #6

Microsoft have a goal that states they want to get to " 1 engineer, 1 month, 1 million lines of code. " You can't do that if you write the code yourself. That means they'll always be chasing the best model. Right now, that's Opus 4.5.

Because as we all know, lines of code == quality of code.

I mean, if 1% out of 8 billion is "top" and that applies to Lines of Code, too, than ... more code contains more quality, ... by their logic, I guess ...
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