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Music eases surgery and speeds recovery, study finds

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Re: Music eases surgery and speeds recovery, study finds

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Post by alt227 »

j_mo wrote: post #49
dyauspitr wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good music is subjective. Aside from the guitar skills involved in shredding, I think heavy metal is probably the worst genre of music.

I'd say good music is objective. Whether it's hard to play, uses complex polyrhythms etc. which most listeners aren't even aware of - and those people tend to think good music is subjective as they can't perceive the quality, only whether they like it or not . There's also some incredibly skilful metal music with no "shredding" whatsoever. I don't particularly like Mozart but I'd be an idiot to say it's not good musi…

This attitude promotes eliteism in music, which I am very opposed to.

Re: Music eases surgery and speeds recovery, study finds

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Post by squigz »

Razengan wrote: post #40

Man, all these "study finds" about things that are intuitively obvious to most humans, but others need "studies" to believe.

That isn't the point of studies finding results that seem "intuitive"

The point is that designing laws, regulations, guidelines, safety standards, etc, based on "intuition" is not very rational.

Re: Music eases surgery and speeds recovery, study finds

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Post by squigz »

devilbunny wrote: post #41
gniv wrote: post #35

I will have surgery soon. If I ask the surgeon to allow me to listen to music during the surgery, will they allow it? I know it depends on hospital/surgeon/etc, but I'm wondering how much doctors are willing to deviate from protocol in general.

Depends on the surgery and how you want to listen. Ask to have it played in the room? Sure. Want to listen on your own device? We don’t want to be responsible for loss or damage to that device. Want to use earbuds? Same problem if you’re going to be sedated at all, plus there is also the risk of damage to you if there’s metal anywhere. One of the most commonly used instruments in surgery is electrocautery. A large pa…

How often do patients request this? Do surgeons ever say no? I would think there's a risk of distraction here.

Re: Music eases surgery and speeds recovery, study finds

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Post by buildsjets »

thomasfl wrote: post #14

If music is so valuable to us humans, then why can't humanity make a site like wikipedia for free music? There is a new generation growing up used to streaming services costing 10 bucks a month.

The kids are gonna be alright. King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard archives all of their concert tapings on archive.org.

https://archive.org/details/KingGizzardAndTheLizardWizard

Re: Music eases surgery and speeds recovery, study finds

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Post by kunley »

simonask wrote: post #68
kunley wrote: post #51

The crucial issue is: what kind of music. A lot of what's nowadays called music is actually rather a "sounds with some beat" category.

Music major here. Surprise, all music you know is “sounds with some beat”. I don’t know what counts as Music to you, but I sure hope you’re not out here trying to promote your particular taste as somehow more refined, because we know a lot about how that is usually just good old classist, generational, or racist biases peeking out.

Who is "we", this magical entity eager to accuse somebody for classism and/or racism? Who are you speaking for? Because for sure not for the entire HN user base

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Post by Razengan »

squigz wrote: post #73
Razengan wrote: post #40

Man, all these "study finds" about things that are intuitively obvious to most humans, but others need "studies" to believe.

That isn't the point of studies finding results that seem "intuitive" The point is that designing laws, regulations, guidelines, safety standards, etc, based on "intuition" is not very rational.

I recall seeing some fairly befuddling ones, like "Study finds that a green environment with plants & flowers reduces depression" etc., how do you even quantify this into numbers?

I tell you I feel good if there's more greenery in the city, you want proof to see "how" good before you build more parks?

Re: Music eases surgery and speeds recovery, study finds

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Post by dmoy »

simonask wrote: post #68
kunley wrote: post #51

The crucial issue is: what kind of music. A lot of what's nowadays called music is actually rather a "sounds with some beat" category.

Music major here. Surprise, all music you know is “sounds with some beat”. I don’t know what counts as Music to you, but I sure hope you’re not out here trying to promote your particular taste as somehow more refined, because we know a lot about how that is usually just good old classist, generational, or racist biases peeking out.

I once played a song that I swear had no verifiable beat. It was some insane Stravinsky piece, sounded like random-ass noise.

But other than weird avant-garde stuff that seems to intentionally try to not have a beat, I agree all music tends to be sounds with some beat.

Re: Music eases surgery and speeds recovery, study finds

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Post by moron4hire »

gniv wrote: post #35

I will have surgery soon. If I ask the surgeon to allow me to listen to music during the surgery, will they allow it? I know it depends on hospital/surgeon/etc, but I'm wondering how much doctors are willing to deviate from protocol in general.

I wore a VR headset during a "simple" outpatient surgery with local anesthetic. The anesthetic wore off halfway through. The VR headset did not help. I nearly passed out from the pain.
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