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Spyware maker NSO Group confirms acquisition by US investors

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Re: Spyware maker NSO Group confirms acquisition by US investors

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Investors: you must care of the planet, not emit any CO2 and not launder any money Also investors: let's invest in hacker business and break into all phones in the world

The first statement doesn’t sound like anything a professional investor would ever say

The first statement is exactly what most investors (of any kind) say. The second is what many investors (especially professionals) are perfectly willing to do.

Re: Spyware maker NSO Group confirms acquisition by US investors

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have their capabilities been overplayed? I think so, but also while they're known as creating 0days, I think they do much more than that, and a lot of it is mundane in comparison. Probably a big departure from their glory days anyway.

Maybe gory days. How many people did they help kill or harass/imprison? https://www.amnesty.org.uk/meet-nso-group-go-company-human-r...

Oh they're a changed company since then, they have a humans right policy: https://www.nsogroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/NSO-Huma...

But on a more serious note, I'm sure a Hollywood producer will bring much needed change to the company.

Re: Spyware maker NSO Group confirms acquisition by US investors

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I always wondered how the software people who work in places like this live with themselves. Is it some sort of “enough money can make me forget and look myself in the mirror” situation?

I briefly worked in offensive security at somewhere you may consider to fit the bill of “places like this” - people do it because it’s fun interesting and rewarding work. The pay is good too, but the fact that you just develop the exploits and don’t Push The Button(tm) really provides more mental space than you’d think.

The entire arms industry has this same ethical dilemma. Many many people are employed in that sector.

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I always wondered how the software people who work in places like this live with themselves. Is it some sort of “enough money can make me forget and look myself in the mirror” situation?

You can say this about most of tech. Sure, we agree spying is bad. But, is it worse than ad tech at large? Is it worse than companies addicting people to their phones via psychological tricks at alarming rates? Or siphoning money from kids via freemium models? Or working on a chatbot that helps kids kill themselves? Or the gazillion payday loan apps? Or the gazillion prediction market/sports betting avenues? I'm sure…

an excellent example of how these people justify their work to themselves.

Re: Spyware maker NSO Group confirms acquisition by US investors

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"Tens of millions" for controlling stake in NSO is like an order of magnitude less than what I'd imagine in todays environment. Comes off as cheap. Have their capabilities been overplayed? Is selling done under pressure? Are they not actually sitting on big bank and procurement network of valuable 0days?

If you sell something for 1 billion, would you tell gov/IRS you got paid that ammount?

Re: Spyware maker NSO Group confirms acquisition by US investors

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe gory days. How many people did they help kill or harass/imprison? https://www.amnesty.org.uk/meet-nso-group-go-company-human-r...

Oh they're a changed company since then, they have a humans right policy: https://www.nsogroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/NSO-Huma... But on a more serious note, I'm sure a Hollywood producer will bring much needed change to the company.

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Re: Spyware maker NSO Group confirms acquisition by US investors

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Investors: you must care of the planet, not emit any CO2 and not launder any money Also investors: let's invest in hacker business and break into all phones in the world

They know they're bad at their jobs which is why so many of them are running towards the DoD (DoW) Infinite Money Glitch Genocide/Fascism Industrial Complex teat.

The reason this acquisition is happening is to enable ICE to enforce NSPM-7.

America is no longer a free state. You cannot be free in a panopticon.

Re: Spyware maker NSO Group confirms acquisition by US investors

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I always wondered how the software people who work in places like this live with themselves. Is it some sort of “enough money can make me forget and look myself in the mirror” situation?

The usual story they tell themselves is that the software is used against criminals and child pornography and terrorism. Which is not wrong, the majority of the use cases are probably that, in the majority of jurisdictions.
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