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Testing two 18 TB white label SATA hard drives from datablocks.dev

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Re: Testing two 18 TB white label SATA hard drives from datablocks.dev

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econ wrote: post #25
Aurornis wrote: post #10

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The reason you don’t see videos arranged by product is because everyone knows not to trust unknown creators telling you how great a product is. Viewers want to see opinions from specific people they’ve come to trust, not the first video that comes up for a product.

They don't have to tell you anything. Just unbox and show what they got. I just purchased a bicycle chain cleaning device. It was absurdly cheap. The plastic was extruded poorly, it was hard to assemble, it was not entirely obvious how to use it. However! It did the job and it barely got dirty. I expected it to be full of rusty oil both inside and outside but it accumulated just a tiny smudge on the inlet. If anyone…

God, the flood of absolutely useless "review" videos Amazon has incentivized customers to shit all over their site which are nothing more than unboxings are the worst thing about that ecosystem. No thank you.

Re: Testing two 18 TB white label SATA hard drives from datablocks.dev

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Post by ghostly_s »

9dev wrote: post #53
Aurornis wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The reason you don’t see videos arranged by product is because everyone knows not to trust unknown creators telling you how great a product is. Viewers want to see opinions from specific people they’ve come to trust, not the first video that comes up for a product.

I don’t trust big channels especially , because I assume they have just sold themselves out to the biggest sponsor. Influencers only exist due to campaign deals, where companies try to sneak their ads into your mind by abusing your inclination to trust another human being. All of it is sickening. In comparison, I’d rather read a general review magazine with a long history. At least they don’t try to trick me into bel…

>I’d rather read a general review magazine with a long history.

Do any of these still exist?

Re: Testing two 18 TB white label SATA hard drives from datablocks.dev

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Post by cerved »

zozbot234 wrote: post #46
f_devd wrote: post #39

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FYI XFS is not redundant, also RAID usually refers to software RAID these days. I like btrfs for this purpose since it's extremely easy to setup over cli, but any of the other options mentioned will work.

btrfs RAID is quite infamous for eating your data. Has it been fixed recently?

No. RAID 5/6 is still fundamentally broken and probably won't get fixed

Re: Testing two 18 TB white label SATA hard drives from datablocks.dev

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Post by hypercube33 »

dragontamer wrote: post #35
aftbit wrote: post #34

I've been considering "de-enterprising" my home storage stack to save power and noise and gain something a bit more modular. Currently I'm running on an old NAS 1U machine that I bought on eBay for about $300, with a raidz2 of 12x 18TB drives. I have yet to find a good way to get nearly that much storage without going enterprise or spending an absolute fortune. I'm always interested in these DIY NAS builds, but they…

I have to imagine that the best NAS build is simply a 6-core or 8-core standard AMD or Intel with a few HBA controllers and maybe 10Gbit SPF+ fiber or something. "Old server hardware" for $300 is a bit of a variation, in that you're just buying something from 5 years ago so that its cheaper. But if you want to improve power-efficiency, buy a CPU from today rather than an old one. -------- IIRC, the "5 year old used m…

Dell R500 series is very good for dense storage at low costs if you lean to SATA or NL-SAS

Re: Testing two 18 TB white label SATA hard drives from datablocks.dev

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Post by cerved »

hypercube33 wrote: post #69
cerved wrote: post #68

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Nah buy the right enterprise gear instead https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/motherboard/A2SDi-H-T...

I'd really dig a version of this with a Ryzen AI chip and 128gb of ram. I'm moving to Lenovo tiny m75q series for now due to low idle power and heat generated.

How much TDP and does it have 8+ sata with 10Gbe?

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Post by sedawkgrep »

cerved wrote: post #67
leobg wrote: post #19

I was about to buy a NAS. I find the idea of using an old laptop instead interesting. Especially since it comes with UPS built in. The author is using a ThinkPad T430. Any experiences?

I own this and it's worth it's weight in gold https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/motherboard/A2SDi-H-T... Yes. It's pricey but it's never been a problem. It can connect like 12 HDDs with 256GB ram and has 10GBe and runs at a tiny TDP. Has IPMI. Fits in a tiny case. The only issue I had with this motherboard was that it was difficult to find someone who sold it. Love it Also I don't see the built-in UPS. The exter…

That's an amazing board. I had no idea something like this existed.

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Post by malfist »

jabart wrote: post #16
malfist wrote: post #11

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There's a big difference between used as in I just bought this hard drive and have used it for a week in my home server, and used as in refurbished drive after years of hard labor in someone else's server farm

Enterprise drives are way different than anything consumer based. I wouldn't trust a consumer drive used for 2 years, but a true enteprise drive has like millions of hours left of it's life. Quote from Toshiba's paper on this. [1] Hard disk drives for enterprise server and storage usage (Enterprise Performance and Enterprise Capacity Drives) have MTTF of up to 2 million hours, at 5 years warranty, 24/7 operation. Ope…

Take a look at backblaze data stats. Consumer drives are just as durable, if not more so than enterprise drives. The biggest thing you're getting with enterprise drives is a longer warranty.

If you're buying them from the second hand market, you don't likely get the warranty (and is likely why they're on the second hand market)

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Post by awaymazdacx5 »

walrus01 wrote: post #74

I was hoping for a full text dump of the SMART data from the drives.

If CSPRNG encrypts /dev/urandom, encrypting the data using a binary 256 bit AES cmd to update entropy pool would double contain the data, which is writing /dev/random to /dev/nvme0n1p1.
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