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Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

#71
post #8

FWIW, everyone who claims that Apple fundamentally needs the centralized ability to control apps on their platforms "for everyone's safety" -- despite how that obviously and repeatedly makes them become patsies for governments all over the world to enforce their censorship regimes -- are complicit in this stuff (in addition, of course, to the people who build it at Apple...).

> are complicit in this stuff I don’t know that that is fair. This framing is designed to shame people into feeling guilty for their point of view, rather than their actions. Being complicit means to be knowingly involved in or facilitating an illegal or wrongdoing act. In my books, it requires a level of participation that I don’t think your characterization meets.

The wrongdoing is supporting this company's dominance, which enables this level of censorship.

Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

#72
post #30

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I wish Steve was still around for these battles. Tim Cook is such a pussy.

Steve was never tested like this was he? Everyone’s about values until they are put into a fucked up situation like Tim Cook. The man had to literally deliver a Roman tribute to this president personally.

And that shouldn't have happened either. Apple doesn't need the US government, and Tim is himself a billionaire— he sure as hell doesn't personally need them either.

Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

#73
post #18

This is exactly what's wrong with Apple's app store exclusivity. It's also what's wrong with mandatory notarization where regulations forbid that, and Google's plan to require developer verification.

Websites don’t need an App Store.

Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

#75
post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> are complicit in this stuff I don’t know that that is fair. This framing is designed to shame people into feeling guilty for their point of view, rather than their actions. Being complicit means to be knowingly involved in or facilitating an illegal or wrongdoing act. In my books, it requires a level of participation that I don’t think your characterization meets.

The wrongdoing is supporting this company's dominance, which enables this level of censorship.

You’re still not shaming me.

Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

#76
post #8

FWIW, everyone who claims that Apple fundamentally needs the centralized ability to control apps on their platforms "for everyone's safety" -- despite how that obviously and repeatedly makes them become patsies for governments all over the world to enforce their censorship regimes -- are complicit in this stuff (in addition, of course, to the people who build it at Apple...).

The problem isn't the centralized control, it's the power the governments have.

Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

#80

Google is making it so sideloading APKs on Android is no longer possible. This is one of many great reasons why that should not happen.

I agree with you, but can we stop calling installing software on the hardware you own "sideloading"?
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