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What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by cowpig »

paulcole wrote: post #16

> Clearly, one should be able to exist in society, including going outside one’s own home, without needing to accept this kind of thing. This is not clear at all to me. When you go into public you’re accepting that you might be filmed. The reality is that you are being filmed constantly. It’s just that it bothers you sometimes. It reminds me of The Light of Other Days (a book about a society where technology makes an…

> Nearly everybody gets over it really quick and the world moves on.

Perhaps this article being #1 on HN right now is evidence that your perspective is not the same as "nearly everybody" else

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Post by LtdJorge »

ofrzeta wrote: post #9

Maybe off-topic and patronizing .. sorry about that. "Running around in the woods, firing small plastic pellets at other people, in pursuit of a contrived-to-be-fun mission, turns out to be, well, fun." I was wondering if there are no biodegradable bullets for Airsoft and found out that they exist. Maybe a better solution than plastic in the woods.

Most of the brands use PLA. Most of the fields (all the ones I’ve been too) require the use of biodegradable (PLA). PLA is plastic.

Edit: forgot to say. In every field I’ve been too, there’s millions of leftover BBs, and I’ve never seen one with signs of degradation.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by haskellshill »

tietjens wrote: post #12
tiahura wrote: post #6

He acknowledges the issue in the article, but doesn’t seem to grasp it fully. Public means not private. What you do in public is not private. In presumptive free societies, when in public, one is allowed to notice what others are doing in public. Secret is the opposite of public. The paranoia around being seen feels a lot like the other reptile-brain based phobias like fear of poisoning with vaccines.

I think this argument is logically flawed. When you say public means not private you are glossing over the fact that public never before meant "available via digital media to the world." Instead it mean a public which had a localized context. Doesn't mean you are wrong, but you're paving over this obvious fact.

But what practical difference does it have that it's "available via digital media to the world."? Are you just opposed to people not in your physical location seeing you? Why?

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by ionwake »

I’m not sure if anyone has missed the delicious irony that airsoft is one of the rare sports where faces and thus identity is covered , pretty much the whole time. I don’t think I’ve ever even seen a human face or anything identifiable in ANY airsoft video I’ve ever seen.

So while the author makes an interesting point about surveillance I can’t tell if he’s being ironic on purpose.

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Post by aeve890 »

Gigachad wrote: post #51
eterm wrote: post #29

I wonder if it's a generational or cultural difference present in the comments here. I am sympathetic to the author, and I also find video a bit invasive of privacy in a way that photos aren't. I therefore find the (obviously common) attitude that videos are just "something you need to accept" quite alien, but I wonder how much of that attitude is just comments coming from a younger generation that have grown up with…

I’m Gen Z and I get how someone could be annoyed by this, but it’s also just part of life. I get annoyed when people smoke in public or pointlessly honk horns at night. But you have to accept that being around other people means some people do things you aren’t a fan of.

>but it’s also just part of life.

Yeah? Who said that? Any selfish person can say the same about anything. "Yeah my dog shat your lawn but that's just part of life. Deal with it". What's part of life is different for everyone.

>I get annoyed when people smoke in public or pointlessly honk horns at night.

Yeah that's annoying, but neither the smoke or the honk are records of your private life published without consent on the internet, forever. So apples and oranges.

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Post by andersa »

simon_void wrote: post #47

this is exactly about what is legal or not. If I remember correctly in Germany there's a distinction about people being the focus of a photograph or people in the background. You can e.g. publish a picture of a public place without asking everybody on that place for their consent. Another corner case would be filming police brutality. What if the police officers in question wouldn't like to be photographed being brut…

This law badly needs to be updated to account for the fact that photo/video resolutions have massively increased since it was written, and "not the focus of a picture" is no longer enough to prevent you from being identified/tracked in the picture, which was the original intent.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by Gigachad »

andersa wrote: post #62
Gigachad wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m Gen Z and I get how someone could be annoyed by this, but it’s also just part of life. I get annoyed when people smoke in public or pointlessly honk horns at night. But you have to accept that being around other people means some people do things you aren’t a fan of.

That's a completely ridiculous comparison. Pointlessly honking or smoking does not create a public record of your activities shared globally without your consent.

No, it just smells like shit, subjects you to a small risk of cancer, and the other disturbs your sleep resulting in a number of mental and physical health issues.

I’d much rather be shown on YouTube playing a sport.

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Post by hamjilkjr »

tiahura wrote: post #6

He acknowledges the issue in the article, but doesn’t seem to grasp it fully. Public means not private. What you do in public is not private. In presumptive free societies, when in public, one is allowed to notice what others are doing in public. Secret is the opposite of public. The paranoia around being seen feels a lot like the other reptile-brain based phobias like fear of poisoning with vaccines.

I think doing a members-only activity on private grounds is the opposite of public

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Post by LtdJorge »

crazygringo wrote: post #14

The answer seems pretty simple. Ask your teammates not to take videos, or find a different group or a different hobby. But since they genuinely enjoy posting the videos, and there's nothing wrong with that, you're probably the one who's going to have move on. You're entitled to not want videos of you taken in public places showing up online. But you're not entitled to getting that outcome.

You can also ask for your face to be blurred.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by haskellshill »

ionwake wrote: post #74

I’m not sure if anyone has missed the delicious irony that airsoft is one of the rare sports where faces and thus identity is covered , pretty much the whole time. I don’t think I’ve ever even seen a human face or anything identifiable in ANY airsoft video I’ve ever seen. So while the author makes an interesting point about surveillance I can’t tell if he’s being ironic on purpose.

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