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Re: Suno Studio, a Generative AI DAW

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Post by pants2 »

patapong wrote: post #8
80hd wrote: post #5

I wasn't expecting to, but I got chills listening to some Suno creations from artists who are clearly very talented at using this new medium. Much like those of us hammering away at LLMs who eventually get incredible results through persistence, people are doing the same with these other AI tools, creating in an entirely new way. I'm sure Suno are working hard on this and these AI tools can only come together as fast…

That sounds really interesting. Would you mind sharing some examples of such creations?

I'll share something! I really enjoy this artist @kant, it's rap which isn't everyone's cup of tea but here's one of his more approachable songs.

https://suno.com/song/07ab552c-1a76-43f4-a619-21a74e774dbd

Re: Suno Studio, a Generative AI DAW

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Post by lomase »

recursive wrote: post #58
lomase wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The people using Sunno AI don't care about writing or mixing music. They don't need the same feature list.

The video seems to be trying to convince me that this is totally targeted at actual musicians. But I guess maybe that's how their target users imagine themselves?

As much as I think making AI music is the pinacle of lazynes and instant gratification, in my opinion they are actual musicians.

What I mean is that in a DAW you have a lots of tools that don't make sense in AI context.

Like for example, people who use agentic workflows don't need a Visual Studio license.

Re: Suno Studio, a Generative AI DAW

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Post by cdrini »

patapong wrote: post #8
80hd wrote: post #5

I wasn't expecting to, but I got chills listening to some Suno creations from artists who are clearly very talented at using this new medium. Much like those of us hammering away at LLMs who eventually get incredible results through persistence, people are doing the same with these other AI tools, creating in an entirely new way. I'm sure Suno are working hard on this and these AI tools can only come together as fast…

That sounds really interesting. Would you mind sharing some examples of such creations?

Not OP, but on the off chance you haven't seen this, I found the suno explorer thing quite nice. Hitting random a few times, I'll usually stumble onto something interesting. This was the first demo I heard where some of the AI tunes gave me goosebumps close to what human music does.

https://suno.com/explore/

Re: Suno Studio, a Generative AI DAW

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Post by lomase »

meowface wrote: post #68
lomase wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Suno with its $125 million VC funding is everything but an underdog my friend.

By underdog I meant the above HN commenter wanting to prove to us that the AI-created songs he likes are actually considered good by others.

I actually have listen to all the links people posted. They are not that bad.

But when they say it can replace Pop music I can only laugh. It is the most boring early 2000 RnB ever created and it souns thin.

Any Aphex Twin model out there?

Re: Suno Studio, a Generative AI DAW

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Post by [deleted] »

patapong wrote: post #8
80hd wrote: post #5

I wasn't expecting to, but I got chills listening to some Suno creations from artists who are clearly very talented at using this new medium. Much like those of us hammering away at LLMs who eventually get incredible results through persistence, people are doing the same with these other AI tools, creating in an entirely new way. I'm sure Suno are working hard on this and these AI tools can only come together as fast…

That sounds really interesting. Would you mind sharing some examples of such creations?

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Re: Suno Studio, a Generative AI DAW

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Post by XenophileJKO »

smt88 wrote: post #21
jjangkke wrote: post #10

What's special about Suno 5 is that the songs are actually good to listen to in place of professionally produced songs. For example, my favorite genre is new jack swing and there is a very limited number of this genre as it was briefly popular during the 90s. Now I have an endless supply of it and you can't tell that its AI produced anymore. Sure to an expert they might be able to detect it but for consumers its just…

I've had some fun with Suno 5, but the songs absolutely don't replace well-made human music. They're much more formulaic and over-produced. They're usually forgettable. People I play them for can always tell they're AI produced.

Currently for me, in the type of music I have enjoyed from v4.5+. V5 of their model is a regression.

I was very impressed with v4.5+ that I could get quite good songs evocative of Devo, Yeah Yeah Yeah's, Metric, etc.

Version 5 is currently harder (or I haven't figured out a way) to generate this kind of chopped/produced sound. It doesn't follow complex style definitions and tends to generate songs that are too slow and "smoothed" over.

Re: Suno Studio, a Generative AI DAW

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Post by BrokenCogs »

bitbuilder wrote: post #38

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It's human nature to want to feel like we've accomplished something. AI generaters like Suno, where all you have to do is type in a prompt and you get the final result, take that sense of accomplishment away from us.

However, if we start working on a project where we're assisted by AI, for example, we're making a game where the sprites are generated by AI or the background music is generated by AI, but the overall game is still directed by humans, that sense of accomplishment stays.

But at some point we're going to reach the stage where the entire game can be generated in high quality, at the same level as humans. What then?

Re: Suno Studio, a Generative AI DAW

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Post by Gigachad »

jsheard wrote: post #35
tummler wrote: post #19

Suno is moving toward becoming a browser-based DAW that happens to use AI. There are already more capable and established DAWs, and I see no reason they can't implement AI into their workflows-- in a more precise manner, where it's actually useful, instead of wholesale as a gimmick. Many are already doing this. So I don't understand where Suno is going with any of this. It either needs to be: 1. So easy anyone can pr…

> It either needs to be: 1. So easy anyone can press a button and magically get exactly what they want with perfect accuracy and quality. 2. So robust and powerful it enables new kinds of music production and super-charges human producers. Don't forget the secret third option - facilitate a tidal wave of empty-calorie content which saturates every avenue for discovery and "wins" purely by drowning everything else out…

That seems to be the purpose. It doesn’t have to sound that good to the listener. It’s just made to extract dollars from Spotify when you flood the platform with so much slop that some of it starts getting played by users who just let the machine pick the next song.

Re: Suno Studio, a Generative AI DAW

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Post by input_sh »

polishdude20 wrote: post #56
input_sh wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're never gonna let you upload and run your own executable files to their infrastructure. That + latency with MIDI devices is why every DAW-in-a-browser is just a toy.

You can get a vst to run locally and still work with the browser.

Okay, but why would you? What's the advantage of that? VSTs are resource hogs (when you have like 10+ running at once), not DAWs.

I somehow doubt a full-blown browser connected to more than a couple of VSTs would be less of a resource hog than doing the same in a DAW. On your computer. That you own. In your house. Without like additional 50ms of latency for the data to travel to the server and back.

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