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The share of Americans having regular sex keeps dropping

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Re: The share of Americans having regular sex keeps dropping

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Counterpoint, courtesy of The New York Magazine deep in the throes of silly season: https://www.thecut.com/article/ghb-doxypep-sniffies-peak-gay... To indulge my inner freshman-dorm-philosopher: It feels like every social dynamic is becoming "more of itself" as the engines of standardization and commodification churn. With the social technologies bringing the same phenomena to interpersonal relationships as the force…

We're Flanderizing ourselves? That would explain kind of a lot.

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> Sure, at first everyone wants her, but many men don't want to marry and raise a family if mom publicly dresses/acts to attract other men's attention. I think you’re projecting some pretty heavy misogyny here.

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I have not noticed women dressing more sexually in the last 30 years or so. I've seen a lot of articles suggesting that women's fashion has remained largely stagnant since the 90s.

Observe for yourself. Go to any gym or mall. Walk near a school or college. It's definitely not stagnant since the 90's.

Re: The share of Americans having regular sex keeps dropping

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You gotta love a society which persistently makes the world a worse and worse place and then complains when people don't want to have sex or have kids. I'm not one of those weirdos who can't see that materially in some superficial ways, our lives are better than ever: medicine, toys, entertainment, and a lot of other stuff, better than ever. Not only that, I can even acknowledge that capitalism is what has provided t…

I think it's more than just "you aren't adequate". I think it's that the material prosperity isn't feeding our souls, or our hearts, or whatever word you want to use. We're better off, but less connected, and we need personal connection, not just internet connection. We're dying inside, even in the midst of all the stuff. We're poor in a way that material prosperity can't fix.

I think its actually counterproductive to use words like soul or heart or whatever, since these things aren't real. We need to figure out how to articulate what counts as healthy for humans without reference to bullshit.

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One thing I’ve noticed in London, being recently single after a 7 year relationship is that people’s behaviour on dating apps has changed pretty considerably. Speaking to female and male friends, both sides are seeing them as a complete shitshow that’s not helping either side meet the right people.

Honestly, I never had much success on dating apps. And I used them since the early 2000s.

Meeting people IRL yielded much better results.

But I have to admit, I met my latest partner in 2019, so I don't know how the pandemic would my current dating success.

Re: The share of Americans having regular sex keeps dropping

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The article mostly blames pornography and digital addiction, but I think those are symptoms of a larger problem, which is lack of belonging and community. If life sucks, you have few friends you can afford the time or money to see, and you work to make other people rich until you are exhausted, when do you have time and energy to maintain a relationship? If you feel like the world is on fire, it's hard to get in the…

Is sex ed positively correlated with greater fertility and frequency of sex? I expect the opposite is true.

I would expect the effect of sex ed (real sex ed, not "abstinence and jesus") would be to decouple fertility and sex frequency.

In a place where abortion was legal, I expect having sex ed would not significantly affect fertility rate but would decrease abortion rate.

Re: The share of Americans having regular sex keeps dropping

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The article mostly blames pornography and digital addiction, but I think those are symptoms of a larger problem, which is lack of belonging and community. If life sucks, you have few friends you can afford the time or money to see, and you work to make other people rich until you are exhausted, when do you have time and energy to maintain a relationship? If you feel like the world is on fire, it's hard to get in the…

> Americans: why isn't anyone having sex anymore?? Also Americans: Abstinence only! You'll get pregnant! No abortions! STDs will kill you! Men deserve sex! We're not going to teach you how your body works! None of that is new in America. If anything, I'd expect that these forces were stronger 20-30 years ago, when sexual activity rates were higher.

It takes about that long for the message to embed itself into the generational psyche.

Re: The share of Americans having regular sex keeps dropping

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The article mostly blames pornography and digital addiction, but I think those are symptoms of a larger problem, which is lack of belonging and community. If life sucks, you have few friends you can afford the time or money to see, and you work to make other people rich until you are exhausted, when do you have time and energy to maintain a relationship? If you feel like the world is on fire, it's hard to get in the…

The decline of community is a very big deal. I think a lot of it has to do with the way we build our living spaces. Modern North American cities are rife with car-centric suburbs, huge driveways, front doors set back a mile from the sidewalk, long commutes to anywhere (not just work, even to get groceries). We're living in these metal-and-glass boxes and we only see other people as obstacles in the way of what we wan…

All good points. Work from home isn’t helping us any either. People typically meet their partners at work.

Re: The share of Americans having regular sex keeps dropping

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Holy hell, you start with misogyny, enter into gender essentialism, veer straight back into misogyny tinged with incel, and end with a screed on racism.

Maybe these are some thoughts you should go to therapy for.

> This is why diversity is not always a strength.

Yikes

Re: The share of Americans having regular sex keeps dropping

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Article is written by a conservative think tank pushing traditional family values. The statistics might or might not be valid but I wouldn't take their word for it.

This is why I immediately brush off articles from liberal think tanks pushing novel anti-family values. The statistics might or might not be valid but I wouldn’t take their word for it
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