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Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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Post by Toenex »

voidspark wrote: post #62
jsphweid wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm getting a little tired of hearing this quote at this point. What about humoring the opposite? I want AI to automate art so I can spend more time doing dishes and doing laundry. Dishes and laundry are purely analog human experiences. Art, at this point, is essentially digital, and digital is the domain of machines so we can let machines do that now.

I want AI to automate everything, so that I can exist in a pod, fed intravenously, in a permanent vegetative state.

I want AI to be able to do everything so the I can choose to do anything.

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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Post by voidspark »

Toenex wrote: post #71
voidspark wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I want AI to automate everything, so that I can exist in a pod, fed intravenously, in a permanent vegetative state.

I want AI to be able to do everything so the I can choose to do anything.

If it can do everything, then you will be redundant.

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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Post by fragmede »

a2128 wrote: post #46
etaioinshrdlu wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These are actually just the problems easier for researchers to solve, mostly due to a lot of readily available data.

Everyone shares music and art they make but nobody ever shares videos and motion capture of themselves doing laundry and vacuuming their house. Maybe we need to start sharing that instead

The UMI gripper project is working on this. they have a handheld gripper device full of sensors that they use to record doing things in the field, like picking Starbucks, which they then use as training data.

https://umi-gripper.github.io/

The other thing to note is part of the aloha project isn't just to record people folding laundry and loading the dishwasher, but to take that data and plug it into a simulator with a physics engine, and use a digital twin to get 10x the amount of data to be used in training the model than if they'd just used real world data. So yes we need that data, but not as much as we would otherwise.

https://mobile-aloha.github.io/ https://github.com/tonyzhaozh/aloha

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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Post by justlikereddit »

Classic google approach to AI.

"We made something really fancy"

"Oh you wanted to try it out for yourself instead of just reading our self-congratulatory tech demos article? How about fuck you!"

Yeah fuck you too Google, this is why your AI competitors are eating you alive, and good riddance

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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Post by ein0p »

It's kinda like Suno, except Suno sounds pretty good sometimes. Even so, I played with Suno for a few days and lost interest. There are some amazing examples on Suno, though: https://suno.com/song/9a7fd58e-132c-4ac5-9a25-f40d7f6f8c9f. This is one of the early tunes, it probably can do better now.

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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Post by MantisShrimp90 »

jsphweid wrote: post #60
eucryphia wrote: post #7

You know what the biggest problem with pushing all-things-Al is? Wrong direction. I want Al to do my laundry and dishes so that I can do art and writing, not for Al to do my art and writing so that I can do my laundry and dishes. - Joanna Maciejewska You could add music

I'm getting a little tired of hearing this quote at this point. What about humoring the opposite? I want AI to automate art so I can spend more time doing dishes and doing laundry. Dishes and laundry are purely analog human experiences. Art, at this point, is essentially digital, and digital is the domain of machines so we can let machines do that now.

I mean I guess In this obtuse, maybe someone's joy In life is doing dishes and that is their art, then idk maybe but not even then.

First, this just misunderstands what is being said here. For most people, chores like the dishes is a menial task that we will be happy for any reduction in time/effort. In addition, dishes and laundry are considered necessary for modern life.

By contrast, art like music and visual mediums is often associated with joy and the creative act of building something out of making art rather than getting a task done.

To misunderstand this contrast is to misunderstand why we automate things in the first place, to minimize the unnecessary toil and maximize human flourishing. This does the opposite frankly.

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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Post by tdb7893 »

jsphweid wrote: post #60
eucryphia wrote: post #7

You know what the biggest problem with pushing all-things-Al is? Wrong direction. I want Al to do my laundry and dishes so that I can do art and writing, not for Al to do my art and writing so that I can do my laundry and dishes. - Joanna Maciejewska You could add music

I'm getting a little tired of hearing this quote at this point. What about humoring the opposite? I want AI to automate art so I can spend more time doing dishes and doing laundry. Dishes and laundry are purely analog human experiences. Art, at this point, is essentially digital, and digital is the domain of machines so we can let machines do that now.

What's to humor here? Do you have a passion for laundry and dishes? Do you spend your free time gleefully dirtying dishes just so you can wash them again? Is art or music something you feel forced to do but don't want to?

I am struggling to understand what's really the opposite here. I don't think anyone views art as the same sort of burden as people view dishes. It's not something you're forced to do (even in the situations you do need it it's pretty trivial to buy).

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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Post by MantisShrimp90 »

chii wrote: post #15
eucryphia wrote: post #7

You know what the biggest problem with pushing all-things-Al is? Wrong direction. I want Al to do my laundry and dishes so that I can do art and writing, not for Al to do my art and writing so that I can do my laundry and dishes. - Joanna Maciejewska You could add music

Nothing stops you from doing art and writing, just like nothing is stopping someone today from riding a horse, running a marathon or rowing a boat.

Unless you are someone that has chores to do like say... Most people? Yes we could technically leave our dirty dishes on the sink while we do art but that decision bites you next time you want to cook lol.

Obviously we mean we want to use that time of doing dish towards art instead, like how automation has always worked?

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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Post by raincole »

jiehong wrote: post #70
broof wrote: post #57

Ai music has been awesome for me, not because the music is that good, but because it gives me the ability to do something that I couldn’t have done myself. I use it all the time for my DnD group, songs about characters, funny moments, backstories, it’s a great tool that our players have found to increase engagement with the game

Sounds like a new genre: live music generated on the fly depending on each user’s context. Just a new possibility!

"Twitch plays (generates) music" goes brrr.
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