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Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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You know what the biggest problem with pushing all-things-Al is? Wrong direction. I want Al to do my laundry and dishes so that I can do art and writing, not for Al to do my art and writing so that I can do my laundry and dishes. - Joanna Maciejewska You could add music

These are actually just the problems easier for researchers to solve, mostly due to a lot of readily available data.

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We already have machines that do laundry and dishes.

Who ever says this have not done laundry :)

Ugh, why can't AI fold my clothes so I can spend more time on Hacker News writing comments?

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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post #15

You know what the biggest problem with pushing all-things-Al is? Wrong direction. I want Al to do my laundry and dishes so that I can do art and writing, not for Al to do my art and writing so that I can do my laundry and dishes. - Joanna Maciejewska You could add music

Nothing stops you from doing art and writing, just like nothing is stopping someone today from riding a horse, running a marathon or rowing a boat.

Presumably, the idea is that AI drives down the cost (and thus, value / career prospects) of art and writing.

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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post #21

The interest in ai music generation is lower than I initially thought. I jumped in but felt the exercise lacked the joy of making music physically or with software like pro tools. With pro tools you control the thousands of knobs which gives you more control. These AI models take away that connection. You can play around with different words to get different results but it's like painting with a shotgun. No one wants…

Also image generation, particularly with latest GPT, can be finetuned a lot more than music generation which is nowadays limited to "here's something with those lyrics and genre".

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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You know what the biggest problem with pushing all-things-Al is? Wrong direction. I want Al to do my laundry and dishes so that I can do art and writing, not for Al to do my art and writing so that I can do my laundry and dishes. - Joanna Maciejewska You could add music

The last 5 years have been a supersized lesson in Moravec’s paradox [1]. More people need to hear about this: the tech world doesn’t have some kind of conspiracy against the creative class, it literally is the lowest hanging fruit as predicted 30 years ago.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moravec%27s_paradox

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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post #21

The interest in ai music generation is lower than I initially thought. I jumped in but felt the exercise lacked the joy of making music physically or with software like pro tools. With pro tools you control the thousands of knobs which gives you more control. These AI models take away that connection. You can play around with different words to get different results but it's like painting with a shotgun. No one wants…

The impact of AI on creative fields will be pretty nuanced I feel. I don't think we will end up in a world where everyone is just AI generating the media they want. In some cases we will, for example stuff like lo-fi beats on YouTube are already started to be bulk made by AI because really it's just fancy white noise for people to use to work.

Actual music (like what you find on Spotify) I think won't be impacted very much. People strongly identify with the art they consume, and that identity comes from the people who make the art. Those folks might be using AI under the covers for elements of their creative work, but ultimately what people care about is the humanity behind the art. It's the same with film, and traditional art people hang on their walls. We like the actors, the director, the artist, their taste, and who they are. It's why we have celebrities, because we get invested in the people behind the art.

Video games I think will be interesting... I feel they will be more susceptible to being accepted as AI generated. I don't think people identify with them as strongly.

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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I've made a few tracks using Suno to scratch my own itch / desire for music that covers certain themes. The best use of Suno for has been the ease with which you can generate diss tracks: I ask Gemini to make a diss track lyrics related to specific topics, and then I have Suno generate the actual track. It's very cathartic when you're sitting at home in the dark because the power company continues to fail. Anyway, I…

> cathartic when you're sitting at home in the dark because the power company continues to fail

Ironical remark about the power drawn by IA assisted creation left to the reader.

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