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Bluesky quickly sold out of the T-shirt its CEO wore to troll Mark Zuckerberg

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Re: Bluesky quickly sold out of the T-shirt its CEO wore to troll Mark Zuckerberg

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"About a million dead and a million enslaved might disagree" You might be very surprised at how differently ancient people viewed the world compared to yourself. Sure, no one wants to be killed or enslaved but the societies of these very people behaved in precisely the same way as the Romans and most ancient societies did. These were not peace loving hippies being invaded by alien monsters. Anyway, Caesar was not dic…

No, that is not a reasonable take at all. Julius Caesar came as an invader.

Yes, Caesar was an invader.

But it's important to understand that all of Gaul was tribal. The was no unified country. These tribes were invading each other's land constantly to loot, rape, kill, take hostages, enslave, and extract tribute.

Gallic tribes had famously sacked Rome, and if Rome hadn't become so powerful they would have happily done it again. German tribes had successfully invaded Roman territory as recently as around the time Caesar was born. They were a legitimate threat, especially to the Roman province, although it's also true Caesar's had other motivations.

Again, it's just much more complicated than when for example Hitler and Stalin jointly invaded the entirely peaceful country of Poland. Or when Putin invaded the entirely peaceful country of Ukraine.

Re: Bluesky quickly sold out of the T-shirt its CEO wore to troll Mark Zuckerberg

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Perfect is the enemy of good. BlueSky is an iterative improvement on the other viable platforms.

No, the iterative improvement is to go back to letting communities develop the services and interactions they need rather than it being dictated to us by a monoplatform. It was like that with Twitter and now happening again with Bluesky. If you don't see how this ends you're not paying attention. If you support this you 're the problem.

The whole point of ATProto is personal ownership of content. The current degree of centralization is an undesirable but (arguably) necessary feature of bootstrapping a new platform.

Re: Bluesky quickly sold out of the T-shirt its CEO wore to troll Mark Zuckerberg

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The real question is why isn't the shirt open source and decentralized?

More empty promises from Bluesky

LOL. You need to make multiple distributed instances of the awesome shirt.

Re: Bluesky quickly sold out of the T-shirt its CEO wore to troll Mark Zuckerberg

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I'm reasonably sure they will be able to fund continued development without merch drops: https://www.businessinsider.com/x-competitor-bluesky-valuati...

Funding =/= monentization, and the former presupposes a need for the latter

The monetization strategy has already been announced. I’m pointing out that there is no near-term scenario where the bills aren’t getting paid.

Re: Bluesky quickly sold out of the T-shirt its CEO wore to troll Mark Zuckerberg

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> Zuckerberg has drawn comparisons between himself and the Roman dictator Julius Caesar Thought it was Caesar Augustus? IIRC Zuckerberg has even claimed that his hairstyle is inspired by him.

yea it's augustus, but Zuck's "Zuck or Nothing" playing off of "Aut Caesar aut nihil" isn't even referring to a particular Caesar, but it's use as the title Emperor , and attributable to Cesare Borgia. I think Zuck's shirt is a good joke on everyone trying to displace Facebook from the market. BlueSky wants to be the next Facebook/Twitter, so IMO by not getting the joke the Bluesky shirt is a self-own.

The entire point Jay Graber is making with her shirt is that BlueSky does not want to be the next Facebook or Twitter.

I don't understand how you misunderstood that so badly that you came to this conclusion.

Re: Bluesky quickly sold out of the T-shirt its CEO wore to troll Mark Zuckerberg

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yea it's augustus, but Zuck's "Zuck or Nothing" playing off of "Aut Caesar aut nihil" isn't even referring to a particular Caesar, but it's use as the title Emperor , and attributable to Cesare Borgia. I think Zuck's shirt is a good joke on everyone trying to displace Facebook from the market. BlueSky wants to be the next Facebook/Twitter, so IMO by not getting the joke the Bluesky shirt is a self-own.

The entire point Jay Graber is making with her shirt is that BlueSky does not want to be the next Facebook or Twitter. I don't understand how you misunderstood that so badly that you came to this conclusion.

On the contrary, the phrase is a direct threat, "we are here to disrupt and take you down", maybe Jay Graber does not want to be the Mark Zuckerburg, but bluesky wants to be the next Facebook. its just evolving to diffuse the legal and ethical responsibilities of moderating. It's laudable and I agree with them on principle, but I'm not in love with the David Goliath framing. They're equally as silicon valleyish and VC funded as anyone else.

Re: Bluesky quickly sold out of the T-shirt its CEO wore to troll Mark Zuckerberg

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The entire point Jay Graber is making with her shirt is that BlueSky does not want to be the next Facebook or Twitter. I don't understand how you misunderstood that so badly that you came to this conclusion.

On the contrary, the phrase is a direct threat, "we are here to disrupt and take you down", maybe Jay Graber does not want to be the Mark Zuckerburg, but bluesky wants to be the next Facebook. its just evolving to diffuse the legal and ethical responsibilities of moderating. It's laudable and I agree with them on principle, but I'm not in love with the David Goliath framing. They're equally as silicon valleyish and V…

Even if they were as you say, a David and Goliath framing is 100% appropriate given the relative assets and market power of Meta and Bluesky.

Re: Bluesky quickly sold out of the T-shirt its CEO wore to troll Mark Zuckerberg

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> Top Headlines > Latest News > Newsletters > TechCrunch is an American global online newspaper focusing on topics regarding high-tech and startup companies. [0] Oh, okay. My fault. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TechCrunch

Yeah and New York Post calls itself a newspaper but we all know it's some trashy shit.

That's reflected on its wikipedia page [0], too. Note the word "tabloid":

> The New York Post (NY Post) is an American conservative daily tabloid newspaper published in New York City.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Post

Re: Bluesky quickly sold out of the T-shirt its CEO wore to troll Mark Zuckerberg

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yea it's augustus, but Zuck's "Zuck or Nothing" playing off of "Aut Caesar aut nihil" isn't even referring to a particular Caesar, but it's use as the title Emperor , and attributable to Cesare Borgia. I think Zuck's shirt is a good joke on everyone trying to displace Facebook from the market. BlueSky wants to be the next Facebook/Twitter, so IMO by not getting the joke the Bluesky shirt is a self-own.

> BlueSky wants to be the next Facebook/Twitter, so IMO by not getting the joke the Bluesky shirt is a self-own. The point of the shirt seems to be that they don't want to be the next facebook. The article clarifies that. Whether they'll live up to that promise if they grow is another issue.

Oh they'll live up to the promise, because of the protocol's technical architecture. Also mentioned in the article, if they decide to go on a direction the public doesn't like, it's an easy fork.
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