I actually got a girlfriend through automation lol. So its actually really funny that we all go through the same problem in online dating especially on apps like Hinge. I tried to search for solutions out there that help with the swiping part so I can focus on getting matches. I literally am a person that likes to live offline and spend less time on these apps and focus more of my time doing productive things. But that being said living in a big city gets lonely and its hard to even socialize after a long day of work so you have to go back to the apps. I started searching for solutions around this same exact problem and theres a website theloveguru.ai which literally does this for Hinge+ users. So I used it, but to be fair it didn't work immediately cause you get a lot of matches and luck wasn't on my side, I was still getting ghosted (maybe my profile sucked), but ultimately on my 800th match in New York I vibed well with my date (now my girlfriend) and I guess it is a numbers game at the end of the day. I personally think AI is taking over a lot of things even in the dating apps industry. Like theres AI photo enhancers already that make you look 10X better and then automation and AI wingmen for messages etc. I kind of view it as a numbers game now but yeah curious to know what ya'lls experience has been.
AI 'wingmen' bots to write profiles and flirt on dating apps
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Re: AI 'wingmen' bots to write profiles and flirt on dating apps
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
almost all of the popular ones have photo verification and you can limit yourself on interacting with photo-verified (Tinder even have ID auth) users only
How would you prove in front of court that this verification icon was not placed by the app development company? :-)
i'm yet to have a good chat with a bot. never met one in a dating app tho, but you raised a quite neat point... what's the end point? make effective bots that out of the blue unmatches you? if that ever gets out in the wild, either the company risks (i guess) a huge legal fee or users migrate to reliable places/video chatting right after matching turns into a user 'handshake' verification
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
The way people select a mate on dating apps is very different than how people judge potential mates when meeting them in real life. Someone could be bad at texting and writing profiles but actually charming and a good fit to you when given the chance to have an actual date. The idea so use a tool that helps you over the initial hurdle so you get a chance in the first place isn't that far fetched. Also speaking person…
Dating apps commodify meeting people. Any time something is commodified, it undergoes a distortion, first to meet the demands of being a commodity, and then to meet the demands of the market in which it's disseminated. AI, if easier and worse, has the potential to accelerate the decline of online dating - already a hellscape - into something so terrible it is easier to avoid. AIAcc is a legitimate stance in the face…
> Dating apps commodify meeting people.
Romantic relationship are commodified and transactional in nature. Brideprices and dowries preceded the dating app by millennia. In China, it's not uncommon to see literal marriage markets where parents sell their child's resumes to other parents as though their children were cars or cattle.
Re: AI 'wingmen' bots to write profiles and flirt on dating apps
#74I read a short story once, maybe by Ted Chiang of Stories of Your Life fame which inspired Arrival, it talked about how there was a similar system for dating in their world, bots writing for other bots, that eventually the AI got so powerful that it knew who your soulmate was out of everyone in the world and it would tell you. What the people in the story grappled with was, would you truly want to meet your supposed…
I don't know. If my doctor tells me I need to take a certain pill to get better when I am sick, I don't grapple with the lack of free will. I really don't want to take my chances by choosing medications myself. What would be the point of that? Especially in the hypothetical situation where the doctor is perfect, or nearly so. This feels more like cope than anything. We are stuck in an imperfect situation and tell our…
Taking medicine is vastly different than finding love, for most people (even if many do in fact refuse a doctor's orders to exercise their free will too, to their detriment). In fact, for examples of the latter, there are many stories in media about characters going against the grain of what their society expects of them simply so that they can experience their own free will, just as the story I linked.
The "point, " so to speak, in the context of relationships, is that people do prefer to have a suboptimal choice if they can feel like they are the ones that made it. You should read the story that I linked that delves more into this.
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#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
Dating apps commodify meeting people. Any time something is commodified, it undergoes a distortion, first to meet the demands of being a commodity, and then to meet the demands of the market in which it's disseminated. AI, if easier and worse, has the potential to accelerate the decline of online dating - already a hellscape - into something so terrible it is easier to avoid. AIAcc is a legitimate stance in the face…
> Dating apps commodify meeting people. Romantic relationship are commodified and transactional in nature. Brideprices and dowries preceded the dating app by millennia. In China, it's not uncommon to see literal marriage markets where parents sell their child's resumes to other parents as though their children were cars or cattle.
I don't engage with people that way and I would encourage others not to either. It debases the human experience.
To describe the world as such says more about one's perspective than the world as it is.
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> a) first, i didnt tell her my assumption?!!! You approached her cold on the street knowing nothing about her but her appearance. You don't need to tell your assumption. Women have brains. > you are sounding like: "do not do any of those assumptions because they are wrong and listen..." While I may have an opinion on the assumptions you are making, I am not at all expressing that. What I am expressing is that you ar…
If a guy sees an attractive woman out in real life somewhere, is there any action he can take that would be appropriate? What specifically should a guy do?
If you are not at a bar, club, church singles' mixer, or other environment where people go for the purpose of meeting strangers for dating, think to yourself, "oh, she's pretty," then move along. Seriously. This advice goes doubly at any even slightly professional event, like a conference or a technology meetup.
If you need encouragement to leave her be, remember that more likely than not, she's already in a relationship.
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#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
What would you recommend he have done instead? Your reaction is an example of why dating is so hard for guys. There is no way to approach women without risking a potentially reputation-ruining reaction.
Well, there's definitely no right way to do a cold approach and immediate invitation to a date to a stranger on the street; there are contexts where people are signalling they are open to dating approahces from strangers (dating apps, certain singles events—but even a certain amount of mutual sharing, facilitated by the app or event, is normal before an invitation, for both parties to do some assessment of compatibil…
>But a cold approach on the street based on nothing but appearance has got to be the worst choice ever.
all of the dating apps are based purely on appearance. This is not by mistake, but because we people judge by appearance first of all.
>higher chance of approaching someone who isn't available
so what? 70% someone isn't available but the 30% that are available you still have higher chance of getting the date than on the dating apps.
> you also signal that ... you are incredibly socially inept...
right... because being charming and speaking to someone in real life with good body language and flirting skills is going to signal you are socially inept.
All I hear are bunch of excuses to be honest.
Approaching on the street has been a game changer for me, I know have a long term girlfriend from street approach
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
> a) first, i didnt tell her my assumption?!!! You approached her cold on the street knowing nothing about her but her appearance. You don't need to tell your assumption. Women have brains. > you are sounding like: "do not do any of those assumptions because they are wrong and listen..." While I may have an opinion on the assumptions you are making, I am not at all expressing that. What I am expressing is that you ar…
If a guy sees an attractive woman out in real life somewhere, is there any action he can take that would be appropriate? What specifically should a guy do?
just approach... Aproach in public places, where it's bright best timeing is during the day near other people... If you think she is creeped out say goodbies, most of the interactions you will either click in first seconds or get shut down. Don't be intimidating, don't touch her, chat with her for few minutes then ask her to go for a date... If you seriously decide to do that you will be surprised how many women are available... Most of the receptive ones I found where single and not on dating apps for various reasons... So basically you literally have zero competition, as those girls are not actively dating (especially when out of university)
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Re: AI 'wingmen' bots to write profiles and flirt on dating apps
#79"may degrade an already precarious online environment" Not may, will. Furthermore, I will never wrap my head around why people would use AI for a use-case like this. It entirely defeats the purpose of interacting with people. If you are awkward, with enough time you will either find someone who is also awkward, or someone who doesn't care/finds it endearing. Having a bot generate dialog for you is a weird step backwa…
The way people select a mate on dating apps is very different than how people judge potential mates when meeting them in real life. Someone could be bad at texting and writing profiles but actually charming and a good fit to you when given the chance to have an actual date. The idea so use a tool that helps you over the initial hurdle so you get a chance in the first place isn't that far fetched. Also speaking person…
> Someone could be bad at texting and writing profiles but actually charming and a good fit to you when given the chance to have an actual date.
As documented in Cyrano, hundreds of years ago.