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Re: DOGE staffer resigns over racist posts

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Post by loanedempathy »

ilaksh wrote: post #67
loanedempathy wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Blue team is hesitant to use its power in a lot of ways, and due to insisting on consensus most of the time they are handicapped. Red team actually seems to know what power is and how to use it--unfortunately for us, they lack discrimination and strategic planning in its application. Blue team also required a bunch of thought-killing exercises and public signalling of things that are clearly inefficient and intellect…

I would like to believe that those are just intellectually lazy labels. Are you sure it's not 100% accurate to say that Musk and Hegseth are neo-Nazis? Or that we are headed straight for new American Holocaust against Hispanics and a race-fueled third world war? I want that to be hysterical paranoia or "intellectually lazy labels". But look at the historical parallels.

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Re: DOGE staffer resigns over racist posts

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Post by DonHopkins »

scarface_74 wrote: post #38
hypothesis wrote: post #37

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Threats of violence is what drives all those inexplicable last minute vote changes in congress, simple as that.

The Musk+Trump duopoly seems insurmountable. Trump has an a cult like hold on the Republican Party and Musk has enough money + Twitter to control the narrative/scare politicians in line to convince enough independents to keep them in power. Our only hope is that the Cheeseburgers and high cholesterol gets the best of Trump. And that Democrats grow a spine.

The next Luigis could be the Hamburglar and Mayor McCheese, who aim directly for his heart and don't miss.

Re: DOGE staffer resigns over racist posts

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Post by DonHopkins »

ilaksh wrote: post #67
loanedempathy wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Blue team is hesitant to use its power in a lot of ways, and due to insisting on consensus most of the time they are handicapped. Red team actually seems to know what power is and how to use it--unfortunately for us, they lack discrimination and strategic planning in its application. Blue team also required a bunch of thought-killing exercises and public signalling of things that are clearly inefficient and intellect…

I would like to believe that those are just intellectually lazy labels. Are you sure it's not 100% accurate to say that Musk and Hegseth are neo-Nazis? Or that we are headed straight for new American Holocaust against Hispanics and a race-fueled third world war? I want that to be hysterical paranoia or "intellectually lazy labels". But look at the historical parallels.

"Goatfucker" is a fair and accurate and intellectually rigorous label.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Popehat%27s%...

Popehat's Law of Goats

He who fucks goats, either as part of a performance or to troll those he deems has overly delicate sensibilities is simply, a goatfucker.

"He claimed he was just pretending to be racist to trigger the social justice warriors, but even if he is telling the truth, Popehat's Law of Goats still applies."

Re: DOGE staffer resigns over racist posts

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Post by kenjackson »

strangeloops85 wrote: post #3

If you're having a team going into every bit of government data, you might want to vet them. Beyond eugenicists and racists, if they're getting anywhere close to SCIFs, make sure they fill out that SF-86 accurately. And maybe even if they're not, have them go through regular clearance procedures. Yes, it takes time. But right now, DOGE seems like a huge security risk for the USG what with it setting up backdoors ever…

What makes you think they weren't vetted and this isn't what they wanted?

Re: DOGE staffer resigns over racist posts

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Post by toomuchtodo »

scarface_74 wrote: post #45
mullingitover wrote: post #40

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This isn't Musk+Trump, it's Musk+Thiel+Yarvin+Heritage+Vance, with Trump as a hood ornament. His job is simply to sign whatever they put in front of him and play golf. Cholesterol getting the best of Trump isn't going to derail this, since Vance is more than happy to continue the amassing of unchecked executive power. "You won't have to vote again."

The difference is that it is never about policy with MAGA voters. It’s about Trump. You see how quickly MAGA voters went from “America first. No foreign entanglements” to “let’s send troops to the Middle East to clear out Gaza” as soon as Trump said we should do so? Anytime that Trump hasn’t been on the ballot since 2018, Trump voters stayed home. Presidents have always been about personality and not policy. Biden an…

When Trump dies, do you think they will they stay home forever? Because he will die eventually (and is already past male US life expectancy), and I’m curious if the cult disbands at that point (if facts and policy don’t matter to them). If so, we’re really just defending against harm caused during his remaining life expectancy (unknown) and term (<4 years).

Re: DOGE staffer resigns over racist posts

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Post by kenjackson »

hindsightbias wrote: post #42

“Elez promised that Indian workers in the U.S. on H1Bs visas are “going back don’t worry guys.” Are these guys in some alt-universe where Musk and Theil are advocating against more H1Bs? Or maybe they’re were fine with eugenics and racism but weren’t aware of his H1B smacks?

H1Bs are OK, just not from certain countries. I've definitely heard that before from this group.

Re: DOGE staffer resigns over racist posts

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Post by scarface_74 »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #75
scarface_74 wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The difference is that it is never about policy with MAGA voters. It’s about Trump. You see how quickly MAGA voters went from “America first. No foreign entanglements” to “let’s send troops to the Middle East to clear out Gaza” as soon as Trump said we should do so? Anytime that Trump hasn’t been on the ballot since 2018, Trump voters stayed home. Presidents have always been about personality and not policy. Biden an…

When Trump dies, do you think they will they stay home forever? Because he will die eventually (and is already past male US life expectancy), and I’m curious if the cult disbands at that point (if facts and policy don’t matter to them). If so, we’re really just defending against harm caused during his remaining life expectancy (unknown) and term (<4 years).

Look at all of the other Republican candidates in the last primary. None of them would have ever gotten the cult like following if they had made it through the primaries.

I’m not saying another Republican will never win. But they will be your bland mostly inoffensive Republicans like Haley (2024), McCain, Romney, Bush I and II and Dole.

You might disagree with them on policy around the edges. But they won’t bring the destruction of Trump.

Desantis tries his best to be Trump and he flamed out marvelously on the stage. Even in Florida (where I live), he is losing his grip on the legislature.

Re: DOGE staffer resigns over racist posts

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Post by mhh__ »

talldayo wrote: post #4

The other day, I read a comment on the Wired post stating: "Really, all this article says is that if you are an auditor for the commission appointed by the president, we will make sure that this comes up in an aggressively negative way when somebody who you want to work for googles you. It's pure intimidation, masquerading as journalism." Well, it seems these young men were chosen for qualities that should make them…

The comment has a point. You should expect it when playing this game, but it's very clear what said game is.

Re: DOGE staffer resigns over racist posts

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Post by dmvdoug »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #75
scarface_74 wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The difference is that it is never about policy with MAGA voters. It’s about Trump. You see how quickly MAGA voters went from “America first. No foreign entanglements” to “let’s send troops to the Middle East to clear out Gaza” as soon as Trump said we should do so? Anytime that Trump hasn’t been on the ballot since 2018, Trump voters stayed home. Presidents have always been about personality and not policy. Biden an…

When Trump dies, do you think they will they stay home forever? Because he will die eventually (and is already past male US life expectancy), and I’m curious if the cult disbands at that point (if facts and policy don’t matter to them). If so, we’re really just defending against harm caused during his remaining life expectancy (unknown) and term (<4 years).

The other wannabe Trumps don’t have the draw/sway with MAGA folks that Trump does. DeSantis tries and tries but he’s perceived as just a weirdo for the most part. Vance likewise. There’s something uniquely compelling about Trump to the MAGA crowd.
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