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Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by Sharlin »

yifanl wrote: post #48
atrus wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

LLMs are a tool though, so it benefits getting in early and gaining experience using the tool. Companies need to either train up people using a tool, or buy that expertise with the tool. Not to mention all the LLM adjacent tools as well. It's a big, messy, wide field of new software things at this point.

Sure, but does it make sense that your cubicle row of data entry guys are on the cutting edge knowledge of LLM expertise? Because the way LLMs are being pushed in every spreedsheet software would imply that's something someone is asking for.

Cutting edge of LLM expertise? Just using someone's shitty LLM product doesn't require "cutting edge LLM expertise".

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by whaleofatw2022 »

hobs wrote: post #26
_heimdall wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We’re actively pressured to use co-pilot at work Unless you work at Microsoft, that's really interesting to me. Can't say I've ever experienced a boss pushing for me to use a certain developer tool.

I have many friends telling me their job is actively pushing for them to use AI, asking them to be creative about the use of AI, and in some cases pivoting the business to AI products which have no profit margin for the business. I have worked at many places, and often as soon as there's enough profit and momentum based on the back of some core product the fad chasing begins in earnest.

Suits get to then do talks about how awesome they are for their AI transition and the synergies it brought to their OKRS.

Or some bs like that.

Work at one or two shops where an expensive product makes the org's life a living hell but two directors or similar get to do a talk about how it has 'transformed' IT. It will all make sense then.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by InDubioProRubio »

everdrive wrote: post #4

This is emblematic of the LLM race in general. We’re actively pressured to use co-pilot at work, and it’s crammed into every Microsoft product. I’m thankful that my iPhone is old enough not to use LLMs. Companies are afraid of being left behind in the new arms race, but that doesn’t actually mean that the technology actually present use-cases which most people need. (Worse are the meeting summaries or emails which ar…

The papertrail has only value, in dire situations- the only one reading it, editing it and tracking it, are people complicit, explicit or implicit in cooperate crimes.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by KMnO4 »

mmiyer wrote: post #54
replwoacause wrote: post #35

I wouldn’t know because Apple doesn’t want iPhone 13 Pro Max users having access to their AI functionality. So my 18.2 update is neutered compared to someone’s running the latest device.

This is actually for lack of RAM reasons - 15 pro and above have 8gb RAM which is enough to fit 3-4gb models locally with room to spare for rest of the applications. The 13 pro max has 6gb of RAM which is not enough.

Not all Apple Intelligence is run locally. They could have added all the API-based stuff to older phones, but they didn’t

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by Etheryte »

wizzwizz4 wrote: post #50
kemiller2002 wrote: post #15

We have a family friend who is blind and a programmer. It's interesting to hear his perspective. His hope and expectation are that it will greatly increase usability. I've been thrown into the usability deep end due to my wife also losing her sight due to an autoimmune disorder, and my dad losing his sight due to Macular Degeneration. Honestly, it sucks, and I mean like rage quitting, phone throwing sucks. (Try it. T…

LLM-based AI is not needed, or even useful. We know how to make voice interfaces that work, and work well: have done since the 80s. It's just expensive; and it's an expense that nobody in the industry is willing to pay, therefore nobody needs to do it in order to differentiate their product.

What you're missing is that AI solves the expense problem. As the OS vendor you already have an overview and easy access to all interfaces that you expose and it's straightforward to feed that into an integrated AI agent. Add a bit of glue code here and there and a simple implementation is nearly free. Of course, the real value lies in ironing out all the edge cases, but compared to doing all of that manually, it should still be orders of magnitude cheaper.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by shadowtree »

It's legit bad, with an awful onboarding experience.

Opened Image Playground on the iPhone, every prompt error'ed out. Deleted the app.

5min later I get a notification - Image Playground is now operational! Like what the heck!?

Also turned off every summary function. I need to see the latest update on an email thread, not the start. Whoever designed this one...omg.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by falcor84 »

> the survey recorded 73% of Apple Intelligence users ... stating the new features to be either ‘not very valuable’ or they ‘add little to no value’ to their smartphone experience.

They make it sound negative, but I'm lacking context on how it compares to other recent features. I actually would assume that with 27% of users finding a feature to be somewhat valuable, it's a relatively successful launch.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by gsck »

adregan wrote: post #36
taylodl wrote: post #2

Apple has tons of user engagement data. You would think they would have a heatmap showing them where their customers are spending a lot of time trying to accomplish a task. I would focus Apple Intelligence, amongst other tools, to reduce the time needed to accomplish that task. If I were the PO, that's how I'd proceed. I'd want my customers to be able to reduce the time they're spending using the phone and yet gettin…

I imagine my heatmap would show I spend a disproportionate amount of time trying to edit urls in the browser bar.

> 10.0.0.200

Redirects to > www.10.0.0.200

Thank you safari!

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by addicted »

I think it does calculations when I type the = sign.

That’s occasionally been convenient.

But that’s more than balanced out by the couple of times it’s rewritten the words I’ve typed to something I absolutely did not intend on saying.

And the first time I ended up actually sending the message and it caused a whole lot of confusion. I would have thoughts it’s auto correct except AI changed a couple of words and the spellings weren’t similar.

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