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Is somewhere a comparison of Zed to Visual Studio Code?

Memory footprint, startup times, overall responsiveness. At the end of the day VSCode is still Electron app.

VSCode does not necessarily require Electron.

Unlike Zed, VSCode can actually run on a server, and Google Chrome can be used as a client.

You can even take advantage of all VSCode features and plugins using Google Chrome Mobile.

Re: SSH Remoting

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I wish I would be able to start a dedicated server that could then be joined by both myself and my co-workers to work together.

From reading the article, it seems that collaboration is a wholly different layer, just like in VS Code.

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Just a FYI, this feature will install a binary on the remote host and run it. > Your local machine will attempt to connect to the remote server using the ssh binary on your path. Assuming the connection is successful, Zed will download the server on the remote host and start it. https://zed.dev/docs/remote-development

Intellij IDEA does that too, and the installer is a very big file. I suspect an entire headless IDE is installed in the remote host.

Jetbrains provide an option to use their lightweight remote development gateway[1] and not have the IDE installed on the local machine at all.

[1] https://www.jetbrains.com/remote-development/gateway/

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is answered in their FAQ: https://zed.dev/faq : We envision Zed as a free-to-use editor, supplemented by subscription-based, optional network features, such as: Channels and calls Chat Channel notes We plan to offer our collaboration features to open source teams, free of charge.

This seems pretty optimistic to me. I can't imagine any company I've worked for paying for those things. Especially because they're only going to be useful if everyone uses Zed which is unlikely.

Really? I’ve had employers pay for my Jetbrains subscription.

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I don't see how this is different from having all these pre-bundled with a new version of Zed? Either way I'm going to download all of them again.

By bundling, Zed guarantees or at least claims that those bundled executables can be trusted. The same level of trust is possible with on-demand downloading only when some sort of authentication is used [1] but Zed currently doesn't actually authenticate any downloads to my knowledge. [1] Either by embedding cryptographic hashes to the distribution, or by having some means to distribute publicly signed hashes (e.g. m…

>By bundling, Zed guarantees or at least claims that those bundled executables can be trusted

As if anyone at Zed cares and checks them all thoroughly? Even if they wanted they couldn't, given how expansive Node dependencies get.

At best, someone will report an issue/vulnerability for one of those to them. Usually months/years after it exists.

Re: SSH Remoting

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Just a FYI, this feature will install a binary on the remote host and run it. > Your local machine will attempt to connect to the remote server using the ssh binary on your path. Assuming the connection is successful, Zed will download the server on the remote host and start it. https://zed.dev/docs/remote-development

That's what VS Code does too, BTW.

..and is not even open source (EDIT: I'm wrong, see below). Zed's remote server on the other hand seems to be OSS. One could probably install it themselves without relying on the automatic download.

https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/tree/633b665379c18a069...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This seems pretty optimistic to me. I can't imagine any company I've worked for paying for those things. Especially because they're only going to be useful if everyone uses Zed which is unlikely.

Really? I’ve had employers pay for my Jetbrains subscription.

But with Jetbrains products, you pay or the entire software, not just part of it .

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why is there so much hype about yet another editor?

"So much hype" being defined as "the ocassional release announcement HN post now and then", most of which could be submitted by Zed themselves?

And "yet another editor" as in implying that all editors edit, so Vim or Emacs or VSCode or Zed or whatever shouldn't matter, as none brings anything different/new to the table?

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Zed with SSH Remoting and Orbstack is pretty much my dream setup for programming on a Mac. I can now spin up a Linux machine in Orbstack[0] in a few seconds and then SSH into it from Zed for a fast Linux development environment with a fast macOS native editor. It feels a bit like the macOS version of WSL and VSCode. Just a whole lot nicer (subjective of course)! A couple of years ago I was inspired by what Mitchell H…

I've always been running a headless Linux VM wherever I do any dev work, Windows or Mac. Works very well.

Glad to see that WSL2 and OrbStack promotes this workflow.

For now my only complaint is I prefer full-blown VMs instead of WSL-like setup (so that I can work with the same Linux kernel my code targets), but client virtualization support on Apple platforms are pretty meh, definitely not at Hyper-V level yet. OrbStack went out of their way to fix a lot of these but they are not interested in making a VM product.

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