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Russia Claims Breakthrough With ATACMS
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Re: Russia Claims Breakthrough With ATACMS
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It’s really quite reasonable. The basic capabilities of the ATACMS are not hugely changed and have been available for decades. Russia does not have an equivalent that is demonstrably deployed effectively. They’re also not the focal point of US military development. The quality of Russian equipment being deployed right now is really bad. The limiting factor here is not “science”. Fun bonus if you want to watch some pe…
Russia does not have an equivalent that is demonstrably deployed effectively. Ukraine is being hit with Iskander-M all the time, e.g. just days ago at Myrhorod taking out SU-27s. The quality of Russian equipment being deployed right now is really bad. And yet Ukraine is still losing territory, countless men, and the war. This blasé attitude is just bizarre, as if NATO has a secret stock of wunderwaffen about to be ar…
Re: Russia Claims Breakthrough With ATACMS
#73Re: Russia Claims Breakthrough With ATACMS
#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Article claims that ATACMS have been highly effective, but all 5 missiles launched at Crimea recently were shot down. Which is not at all in contradiction. The ATACMS could have been highly successful but not any longer. In fact, this would be exactly what you would expect if the claims in the article are true. > As usual, everything is completely unclear in this stalemate war where both sides regularly claim overw…
People bashing Russia military but asking why Russia is attacking Ukraine are not figuring out that is exactly the reason for the war. Ukraine border is too close to Moscow, it is easy to go from Ukraine to Moscow and Russia know they would fail to defend themselves from a NATO land invasion from there. Thus why they are willing to pay a very high price to ensure this won't happen.
Re: Russia Claims Breakthrough With ATACMS
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Do people in the US genuinely believe that? Makes me think of that the Germans thought of the Soviets before June of 1941.
> Do people in the US genuinely believe that? Yes, we fairly reasonably believe that Russia's struggle to make progress against a smaller neighbor using NATO hand-me-downs is heavily indicative of how they'd do against all of NATO using B-2s, F-22s and F-35s.
Re: Russia Claims Breakthrough With ATACMS
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There's a whole field of study, named Kremlinology, dedicated to deciphering what was it that the people there actually meant by saying this and that. I used to think that I had some additional insight, hailing from a country neighbouring Russia, but it takes being born on former soviet territory to fully understand their line of thinking. It's not that it's particularly sophisticated - just utterly foreign to anyone…
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Yes, we should have seen their invasion before it started and helped Ukraine defend against it better.
Because, surely, you're not suggesting that we should have let Russia rape, murder and pillage Ukraine (and other countries) without any resistance?
Re: Russia Claims Breakthrough With ATACMS
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The US Army announced that the first PrSM batch has been delivered in December 2023. Operational testing is expected in 2024, with low-rate initial production, full-rate production, and initial capability testing expected in 2025, according to the Government Accountability Office’s 2023 Weapons Systems Annual Assessment. A total of 110 PrSMs are expected to be procured in fiscal 2024 and 190 in fiscal 2025 It's fairl…
If they breathlessly announced they were dismantling one of our howitzers, we'd joke about them being 60 years behind. It doesn't mean those howitzers aren't useful weapons, but...
US-made weapons augmented by Global Positioning System (GPS) satellites for position updates in Ukraine are now susceptible to Russian electronic warfare (EW) jamming ... The weapons affected may include the 155mm Excalibur artillery projectiles, Ground Launched Small Diameter Bomb (GLSDB), Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM) and weapons rounds used with the High Mobility Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS), among others, depending on how they are employed by the weapons operators.
An unnamed source reportedly familiar with the classified report told the NYT that in the worst-case scenario, only one in 19 Excalibur rounds was hitting its target, where the report said the cost per successful strike skyrocketed from $300,000 to $1.9 million between January and August 2023.
Being able to test GPS jamming techniques against intact munitions isn't some hypothetical academic problem.
Re: Russia Claims Breakthrough With ATACMS
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Article claims that ATACMS have been highly effective, but all 5 missiles launched at Crimea recently were shot down. Which is not at all in contradiction. The ATACMS could have been highly successful but not any longer. In fact, this would be exactly what you would expect if the claims in the article are true. > As usual, everything is completely unclear in this stalemate war where both sides regularly claim overw…
People bashing Russia military but asking why Russia is attacking Ukraine are not figuring out that is exactly the reason for the war. Ukraine border is too close to Moscow, it is easy to go from Ukraine to Moscow and Russia know they would fail to defend themselves from a NATO land invasion from there. Thus why they are willing to pay a very high price to ensure this won't happen.
Ironically, pushing Finland into NATO, bringing Moscow into SRBM range of an actual NATO member. Oops.
Re: Russia Claims Breakthrough With ATACMS
#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s really quite reasonable. The basic capabilities of the ATACMS are not hugely changed and have been available for decades. Russia does not have an equivalent that is demonstrably deployed effectively. They’re also not the focal point of US military development. The quality of Russian equipment being deployed right now is really bad. The limiting factor here is not “science”. Fun bonus if you want to watch some pe…
Russia does not have an equivalent that is demonstrably deployed effectively. Ukraine is being hit with Iskander-M all the time, e.g. just days ago at Myrhorod taking out SU-27s. The quality of Russian equipment being deployed right now is really bad. And yet Ukraine is still losing territory, countless men, and the war. This blasé attitude is just bizarre, as if NATO has a secret stock of wunderwaffen about to be ar…
Ukraine is losing territory at a glacial pace. Meanwhile Russia is giving away (selling) territory to China.
Russia is also losing men att a rate of 5-to-1 or thereabout.
Losing the war? Pfft. Russia is throwing away all their equipment, countless of lives and ruining their economy in the ground... For nothing.
Re: Russia Claims Breakthrough With ATACMS
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> As usual, everything is completely unclear Its only completely unclear if you think that the words of a dictatorship is equally trustworthy as a democracy plus the journalism of the rest of the free world.
Taken to the extreme, you can then also not trust the free world. Reuters also cites the Russian sources: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-accuses-kyiv-usi... So either Russia shot down 4 of the 5 missiles and they landed in apartment buildings, or the one that landed on the beach was also shot down. Or they staged everything, including blowing up apartment buildings. Unlikely, since Defense Secretary Aust…