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Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

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Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

#71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FYI: Cult of the Dead Cow is a hacker group that has been around since the 80s. Hell a number of members actually have testified in congress before (i.e. the CdC members that were also part of L0pht).

one of them went beyond testifying in congress and just became a politician [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beto_O%27Rourke

Holy crap, that is a surprising connection between two names I individually knew in a social graph.

Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

#72

The amount of people in this comment section, on "Hacker News", that are completely oblivious to one of the most iconic groups of hacker culture is... depressing. I wonder how can we spread more zeitgeist about it to newer generations?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_the_Dead_Cow I dunno, but maybe try being informative instead of critical that losers like me never got the memo?

I'm sorry if it felt critical or condescending, it certainly was not the intent. If anything, I just want people to experience that coolness the same way I did.

Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

#74

Oh man, does this bring back memories. I loved BackOrfice. I installed it on the network at the University where I was a student. I had a friend call me on a payphone from a vantage point where he could view the layout of the computer terminals being used by students doing research. At first, I would open the cd trays of a couple of the computers and he described the students confusion as they kept closing the trays…

That sounds like a crummy thing to do to the people in the lab.

Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

#75

This was actually announced/released last year. It is absolutley fascinating and deserving of HN (IMHO). > Veilid is an open-source, peer-to-peer, mobile-first, networked application framework. Website: https://veilid.com/ Overview: https://veilid.com/docs/overview/ Slides from the Defcon presentatino: https://veilid.com/Launch-Slides-Veilid.pdf Code: https://gitlab.com/veilid/veilid

I have seen other similar tools/tech on hn

https://briarproject.org/

https://github.com/berty/berty

There were 1 or 2 more like these but don't remember there names.

Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

#76

The demo VeilidChat app doesn't lead anywhere, but there is a gitlab. I haven't tried it yet. https://gitlab.com/veilid/veilidchat edit: I did, I failed to build it with "version solving failed.", I am not learning how to debug Dart builds right now edit2: well, build.sh finished with some installing, but I still don't see any binary. Eh, other day.

There is a discord, which kinda misses the point.

Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

#77

I had high hopes for Veilid when it was unveiled (ha) but I stopped hearing about it soon after it was published online. Veilid Chat didn't really seem to work once I found the source code and except for a few "hello world" networking programs I haven't seen anything use the protocol yet. The official website doesn't seem to be getting any updates anymore. A shame, because this has a lot to offer, in my opinion.

I think it basically released before it was ready, to much fanfare. Not an undeserved fanfare, but a premature one.

I think the concept is solid and they're still actively developing it, but it's not really something end-users can play with yet.

Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

#79

This was actually announced/released last year. It is absolutley fascinating and deserving of HN (IMHO). > Veilid is an open-source, peer-to-peer, mobile-first, networked application framework. Website: https://veilid.com/ Overview: https://veilid.com/docs/overview/ Slides from the Defcon presentatino: https://veilid.com/Launch-Slides-Veilid.pdf Code: https://gitlab.com/veilid/veilid

I have seen other similar tools/tech on hn https://briarproject.org/ https://github.com/berty/berty There were 1 or 2 more like these but don't remember there names.

veilid is meant to be a bit more general purpose than briar or berty, which are primarily chat apps. veilid is more similar to freenet in some sense. note: veilid does not currently support bluetooth transport.
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