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LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Post by fensgrim »

AnonCoward42 wrote: post #61
wanderingmind wrote: post #46

Happy user of LineageOS. Unfortunately I need a few apps that look for Play Store like Whatsapp, so I'm using LineageOS+ MicroG. Have been using an old Moto G7 for years and it has still been faster than most Samsung phones. Thinking of upgrading but I'm gonna wait until the phone physically breaks down which might still be a few years away. If you plan on installing Lineage, I strongly recommend buying Motorola phon…

I wanna add Xiaomi, however with the caveat that I like neither bootloader unlock procedure. Xiaomi wants to install their software on the host (I recommend a VM), you need a SIM installed, and you have to wait 7 or 14 days for the unlock to work (on MIUI at least, Android One does not have that). On Motorola you have to connect to the internet for 3 days at least and you may not interrupt it otherwise it resets (I h…

> Xiaomi

mtkclient [0] would let you skip the whole 7/14 days thing (also: unrestricted partition dumping/flashing). Though there are chances of ending up with soft/hard brick (normally possible to revert back to working state as long as you have backups), and there may be no support for your specific chipset/device/software revision at all.

0. https://github.com/bkerler/mtkclient

Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Post by uncharted9 »

Although I never had enough money as a student to get Pixel devices, I made sure to get devices with an unlockable bootloader. Xiaomi devices have been quite a good choice if you're in the market for cheaper devices with an unlockable bootloader. I cycled through Lineage OS, Pixel Experience, and Project Elixir, and I am currently using CrDroid on my 2019 phone. Still works like charm. I'm surprised at how bloatware-free the devices can be. Just flash core Gapps to get the bare minimum of Google Play Services working for apps that need GPS and push notifications. The battery backup has also been quite amazing as compared to the default MiUI ROM.

I do sympathize with other posters with their experience of Safety Net and Device Integrity checks forcing them to not use banking and payments apps, but going through XDA or Telegram clears up this confusion of which ROM passes these checks OOB without any fiddling.

I've decided that I won't play this custom ROM security nightmare game anymore and will get any Pixel device with GrapheneOS in the future. Often, it's just one guy developing each ROM for each device.

Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Post by fsflover »

danielEM wrote: post #36

I admire how much bloat free it is. Have it on my both phones. But to me it is what I have if I can't have what I want to have. And I want to have straight forward linux on my phone. No termux hacks and other imitations, etc. Period.

Here you go: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Librem_5

Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Post by poisonborz »

reify wrote: post #2

I install Lineage on the phones of the elderly at local care homes and any people who are interested in prolonging the life of their old phones. Poor people can't afford a new phone every two years. When in your 80's you dont need or want the constant nagging of apps pestering you when all you want to do is text and call your family and friends. I use abd to delete/disable every unnecessary useless app and leave them…

Take something as simple and necessary like Messenger or WhatsApp. Try to use it with no previous knowledge, texting, calling, turning on camera during call. All the text the UI displays, how it is worded. It's ridiculously unintuitive, not inclusive, a real barrier.

There should be law to mandate the UI of any app beyond a userbase of 100M. If you say that would severely restrict apps becoming that big, yeah that would be kind of the point.

Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Post by Moldoteck »

duffpkg wrote: post #4

I am pretty hard on phones. Been using lineage for years now on google pixel unlocked phones. 5a and now 6a. I have found both to have some real durability problems. Are there any good alternatives that are unlocked to use with lineage?

for durability -fairphone

Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Post by fensgrim »

deng wrote: post #35
duffpkg wrote: post #4

I am pretty hard on phones. Been using lineage for years now on google pixel unlocked phones. 5a and now 6a. I have found both to have some real durability problems. Are there any good alternatives that are unlocked to use with lineage?

As already mentioned, OnePlus is the usual alternative. If you want it cheaper, I also have good experiences with Motorola phones. Unlocking requires you to register, but you can use a throwaway mail account and it has worked for me so far many times. Just make sure the device is officially supported by Lineage, I have very mixed experiences with unofficial ports. Stay clear of anything from Xiaomi. Unlocking is a ni…

After OPPO/OnePlus merger, things went downhill really fast. IIRC, OPPO did something that ended up alienating some parts of Lineage/ROM developer community in general and the work on supporting newer devices was postponed until couple months ago; also, they've patched up the bootloader relock possibility [0] which was likely good for security considering it was based on some exploit.

0. https://calyxos.org/news/2022/07/06/oneplus-android-12-reloc...

Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Post by Moldoteck »

jaimex2 wrote: post #63

I gave up on custom Android roms after all the safety net crap and the special cameras that each phone brand seems to insist on. My next phone will be some kind of dedicated Linux one so I can finally finish killing big tech in my life.

afaik you can install ubuntu touch on latest fairphone

Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Post by uncharted9 »

deng wrote: post #35
duffpkg wrote: post #4

I am pretty hard on phones. Been using lineage for years now on google pixel unlocked phones. 5a and now 6a. I have found both to have some real durability problems. Are there any good alternatives that are unlocked to use with lineage?

As already mentioned, OnePlus is the usual alternative. If you want it cheaper, I also have good experiences with Motorola phones. Unlocking requires you to register, but you can use a throwaway mail account and it has worked for me so far many times. Just make sure the device is officially supported by Lineage, I have very mixed experiences with unofficial ports. Stay clear of anything from Xiaomi. Unlocking is a ni…

I agree regarding Xiaomi. But they are quite cheap devices. Like $300 can get you a pretty decent phone. It's just a 7 day waiting time period and you need a Xiaomi account logged in on the phone for those 7 days. I won't say it's the end of the world.

Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Post by mavhc »

reify wrote: post #2

I install Lineage on the phones of the elderly at local care homes and any people who are interested in prolonging the life of their old phones. Poor people can't afford a new phone every two years. When in your 80's you dont need or want the constant nagging of apps pestering you when all you want to do is text and call your family and friends. I use abd to delete/disable every unnecessary useless app and leave them…

Why would they need to buy a new phone every 2 years anyway? Buy a cheap phone, use it for 4 years at least

Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Post by danhor »

wanderingmind wrote: post #46

Happy user of LineageOS. Unfortunately I need a few apps that look for Play Store like Whatsapp, so I'm using LineageOS+ MicroG. Have been using an old Moto G7 for years and it has still been faster than most Samsung phones. Thinking of upgrading but I'm gonna wait until the phone physically breaks down which might still be a few years away. If you plan on installing Lineage, I strongly recommend buying Motorola phon…

I've found that many applications work without Play serices or simply complain but work. Whatsapp even offers an .apk for Download with a self Updater and everything else can be installed with "AuroraStore" (third party play store client).
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