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LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Post by colordrops »

canistel wrote: post #16

I want to, but I cannot. Most of the banking or payment applications baulk at getting a whiff of Lineage. You are then forced to play a cat and mouse game which is quite stressful. It is sad that ROM customisation (and rooting) is stigmatised in the Android world.

I haven't found any apps that aren't fooled by Magisk+Zygisk, and I've got hundreds installed, including dozens of banking and finance apps. The thing that really screws me up are ad blockers. The app doesn't work, and I assume it's detecting the unlocked phone, but then realize my ad blocker is preventing certain network calls.

Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Post by atahanacar »

Cloudef wrote: post #25

Installed lineageos on Mi A1 few months ago as some apps stopped offering android 9 support, this is one of the few phones that do not report unlocked bootloader to safety net so it works with banking apps too. For my surprise, the lineageos is much snappier and battery life is longer, so it's win-win. Be warned though, Google's own Android backup system is completely useless, so make sure you export your important d…

I don't understand why banking apps don't work with root/ROMs. In my country, if your phone is rooted or you have a custom ROM installed, banking apps just warn you about it, saying "Your phone is rooted, if you don't know what it means your safety could be compromised", allowing you to disable further warnings.

Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Post by nicman23 »

atahanacar wrote: post #32
Cloudef wrote: post #25

Installed lineageos on Mi A1 few months ago as some apps stopped offering android 9 support, this is one of the few phones that do not report unlocked bootloader to safety net so it works with banking apps too. For my surprise, the lineageos is much snappier and battery life is longer, so it's win-win. Be warned though, Google's own Android backup system is completely useless, so make sure you export your important d…

I don't understand why banking apps don't work with root/ROMs. In my country, if your phone is rooted or you have a custom ROM installed, banking apps just warn you about it, saying "Your phone is rooted, if you don't know what it means your safety could be compromised", allowing you to disable further warnings.

that is very proper IT wise from them

Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Post by pedroaraujo »

duffpkg wrote: post #4

I am pretty hard on phones. Been using lineage for years now on google pixel unlocked phones. 5a and now 6a. I have found both to have some real durability problems. Are there any good alternatives that are unlocked to use with lineage?

It might be worth to switch to GrapheneOS if you have Pixel phones: https://grapheneos.org/

It is a more serious project than LineageOS in the sense that they take security very seriously and they take their development more professionally too. There are no disadvantages to using GrapheneOS compared to LineageOS.

You can see a comparison here: https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm

Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Post by deng »

duffpkg wrote: post #4

I am pretty hard on phones. Been using lineage for years now on google pixel unlocked phones. 5a and now 6a. I have found both to have some real durability problems. Are there any good alternatives that are unlocked to use with lineage?

As already mentioned, OnePlus is the usual alternative.

If you want it cheaper, I also have good experiences with Motorola phones. Unlocking requires you to register, but you can use a throwaway mail account and it has worked for me so far many times. Just make sure the device is officially supported by Lineage, I have very mixed experiences with unofficial ports.

Stay clear of anything from Xiaomi. Unlocking is a nightmare and you have to wait weeks to get your unlock code.

Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Post by riedel »

Lineage is as much standard android experience as you can get after market without any gaming/styling mods. If google was series about AOSP and sustainability they should embrace lineage and at least give a non-rooted lineage with a relocked bootloader on pixel phones a safety-net pass. Lineage has been very careful to not piss off google by not including microg or alternative webview signatures or means to circumvent device attestation. This love is not returned. If supported it would be a way also for other manufacturers to give their devices extended lifetime support (and allow bootloader relocking with lineage). Without safety net, people cannot use it for e.g. banking if they do not want to get into the cat and mouse game of magisk or trust shady indian enthusiast custom builds (like me because I am currently lazy/busy).

(I am writing this on a Redmi note 10 with lineage 21)

Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Post by c0l0 »

duffpkg wrote: post #4

I am pretty hard on phones. Been using lineage for years now on google pixel unlocked phones. 5a and now 6a. I have found both to have some real durability problems. Are there any good alternatives that are unlocked to use with lineage?

I try to automatically compile a "recommendation ranking" for currently supported LineageOS devices from the official LineageOS wiki data, refreshed daily. It's available here: https://johannes.truschnigg.info/tmp/lineageos_device_toplis...

I recently upgraded from a used beryllium (Poco F1) with a dying battery to a used, but pristine dubai (Edge 30) and have been very happy with that choice.

At least for Qualcomm-based phones, make sure to have the phone's stock ROM provision IP Multimedia Services (IMS) with your MNO/ISP, so that (you increase your chances that) VoLTE/VoWIFI will work also with LineageOS.

Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Post by vincnetas »

dghlsakjg wrote: post #29
bsimpson wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple has claimed to be at the forefront of design for decades,but their UIs look just as garbage as many others at elderly font sizes. It would actually be nice if they shipped a small phone to get regular developers to care about constrained layouts, and then shipped a Pro Max Tab whatever that was the same proportions, but with everything scaled up.

They ship the iPhone SE. That’s about as small as you can reasonably expect any smartphone to be.

Oh how things changed when iPhone 5 (4'') was considered normal phone and anything from 5'' up was a phablet. Now you have basic phones starting from 6''.

Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Post by Symbiote »

guerrilla wrote: post #27
dheera wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What app? A standard app like Google Authenticator? If so you can get a Yubikey and use Yubikey authenticator on a LineageOS device and it will work fine with all of those services. It follows the same standard as Google Authenticator and is a drop-in replacement.

No. BankID in Sweden. Other countries have similar. You need it for everything.

MitID in Denmark, and many across Europe for government and/or banking.

I will install LineageOS once I need apps that my old phone no longer supports. I ordered the MitID backup key generator in case their app doesn't work, but I'd prefer not to need to carry it.

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