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Krita fund has no corporate support

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Re: Krita fund has no corporate support

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Post by jandrese »

phone8675309 wrote: post #64
moralestapia wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Contact us for a quote" Any idea how much that is?

No, but I bet if you contact them that they can give you one.

But then you have to waste a salesguy's time generating a quote for a product that I'm not likely to purchase. I hate doing that. I'm basically stealing from them just because I'm trying to shop around for the best product. I'm calling salesguys and giving all of them my information and getting several different quotes, but I'm only going to execute on one of them. And now they're spamming my inbox every time their company does something even though I've never bought anything from them.

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Post by Macha »

cornholio wrote: post #30

This type of software is an excellent fit for "eventually open" licenses: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12459492 This way, corporations and business users can pay to get the latest version and features just like commercial software, while the hobbyist community still gets a relative recent and feature-full release they can use for free, has source available and is guaranteed to become fully GPL code in 3-5 yea…

This seems thankfully unlikely for Krita given its origins in the KDE project, which for example has the KDE Free Qt Foundation as a poison pill should Qt attempt such a move.

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Post by Karunamon »

moralestapia wrote: post #59
snarfed wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is https://tidelift.com/ ! Others too, I think.

"Contact us for a quote" Any idea how much that is?

No pricing info, no easily accessible demo, government agency logos on the landing page.

This is setting off all of my "enterprise trash software" alarms. And if there is one thing those all have in common, it's being way too expensive.

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Post by bluGill »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #51
sofixa wrote: post #46

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> It's interesting that Europe has abjectly failed to produce anything like Google or Meta. I'm not sure what the underlying reason for that is. There isn't a singular reason, it's a complex combination. Btw I'd like to preface this to say I'm not sure most Europeans actually want a Google or a Meta, there is aversion to "too big to fail" companies in most sectors. * investment money - VCs bet on tons of stupid thing…

> tons of European startups and scaleups and mittelstands and b2b companies of all sizes that are successful and innovative. They're just not "infinite growth" global behemots If their business has no economies of scale, no. If it does, they won’t survive without subsidies. At a certain point, subsidising a low-scale domestic replica of an efficient international option breaks due to (a) the internet and consumer cho…

There are a lot of businesses that are great for a small shop and will make a lot of money, but they have no potential to grow larger. Those businesses are not a domestic replica of some efficient international option as there never will be an international option. If you to become a billionaire you have to start one of those international businesses, but if you are content with a million you can get that on a much smaller local company and you don't have to deal with investors at all.

Software does lend itself to international options more than other fields as the upfront costs are high and ongoing costs are low. (compare to plumbers where you can start a company with a van and a fittings, but you have to pay the plumbers you hire every year - by the time you pay the plumbers and the office workers to schedule them there isn't much $ left over)

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Post by borbtactics »

raincole wrote: post #18

I'm migrating from Krita to Photoshop lately. Don't get me wrong, I love Krita. I used it for years and I wrote ~30+ bug reports. It's a positive thing -- I won't bother reporting bugs to Adobe cause I know they don't care, unlike Krita devs. However every time I need to collaborate with someone else, they use Photoshop. They use .psd like it's an interchangeable format[1]. Out of 10+ artists I've only seen one who d…

Same here. I want a Photoshop alternative that has built-in tate-chu-yoko but I've never seen one

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Post by nunodonato »

raincole wrote: post #53
hospitalJail wrote: post #50

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Hate defacto standards behind corporations. M$ Windows, Photoshop, each company gets locked into their own CAD nightmare. On the flip slide, we have Blender, Linux Server, (enough)SQL, Git, Stable Diffusion, and maybe python/python libraries if that counts.

When I moved from web dev to game dev, the second most surprising thing I found is how much this industry depends on proprietary solutions compared to web dev. The most surprising thing is how little professional people get paid, again compared to web dev.

that's why I switched from gamedev to webdev :D

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Post by sho_hn »

q0uaur wrote: post #28
lars_francke wrote: post #7

I want someone to build this: SBOM (Software Bill of Materials) are slowly becoming ubiquitus around the world due to regulation. I want to be able to aggregate all SBOMs within my company, have a small tool that scans my machine and creates a SBOM for all Open Source tools I use (e.g. Firefox, VLC etc.), uploads that to my corporate registry. This data is then submitted to a donation aggregator which analyzes those…

I was also disappointed to see them using a KDE account for donations. I like KDE but i'm pretty sure there's tons of krita users who do not use kde, me included. Found that there is a Krita on liberapay, which i much prefer as platform, but who knows if that's official or not, since it's not linked on this thread's link.

KDE is a community of developers that makes various software products, including Krita - that's why there's a KDE account involved here, since KDE makes Krita :-)

Many of those software projects available even for commercial systems like Windows and Mac OS, and of course the various free software environments. Those users are all equally important, so there's no conflict there.

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Post by natpalmer1776 »

moralestapia wrote: post #59
snarfed wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is https://tidelift.com/ ! Others too, I think.

"Contact us for a quote" Any idea how much that is?

According to web.archive.org they had their 'starter' subscription priced at $30,000/year for 50 developers as of December 18th, 2022.

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Post by birdyrooster »

lars_francke wrote: post #7

I want someone to build this: SBOM (Software Bill of Materials) are slowly becoming ubiquitus around the world due to regulation. I want to be able to aggregate all SBOMs within my company, have a small tool that scans my machine and creates a SBOM for all Open Source tools I use (e.g. Firefox, VLC etc.), uploads that to my corporate registry. This data is then submitted to a donation aggregator which analyzes those…

I read this several times and I have no idea what benefit this would serve or anything about it.

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Post by lloeki »

tambourine_man wrote: post #62
raincole wrote: post #35

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Because just like the most "open source app reading/writing proprietary format" scenarios, it doesn't do it perfectly. Even if you simply import a .psd and re-export it again as-is, it will still break things like smart objects and layer blending options. It's not Krita's fault: .psd is not an interchangeable format. Implementing .psd support perfectly is basically implementing the whole PS itself. It's all the artis…

And PSD is notoriously complicated. I remember reading some rant by an open source developer and there were things along the lines of different endianness in the same file. It’s a 30+ year old format that went to multiple transitions. I don’t envy the poor soul that has to reverse engineer it.

> I remember reading some rant by an open source developer

This one? https://github.com/gco/xee/blob/4fa3a6d609dd72b8493e52a68f31...

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