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Krita fund has no corporate support

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Re: Krita fund has no corporate support

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

sofixa wrote: post #46
JonChesterfield wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Alternatively they've been completely skewed by the profit margins of the big software companies, where it turns out they print money regardless of how high payroll gets. As supporting evidence, VC funded startups pay less than said software companies. It's interesting that Europe has abjectly failed to produce anything like Google or Meta. I'm not sure what the underlying reason for that is.

> It's interesting that Europe has abjectly failed to produce anything like Google or Meta. I'm not sure what the underlying reason for that is. There isn't a singular reason, it's a complex combination. Btw I'd like to preface this to say I'm not sure most Europeans actually want a Google or a Meta, there is aversion to "too big to fail" companies in most sectors. * investment money - VCs bet on tons of stupid thing…

> tons of European startups and scaleups and mittelstands and b2b companies of all sizes that are successful and innovative. They're just not "infinite growth" global behemots

If their business has no economies of scale, no. If it does, they won’t survive without subsidies.

At a certain point, subsidising a low-scale domestic replica of an efficient international option breaks due to (a) the internet and consumer choice or (b) cost.

Re: Krita fund has no corporate support

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Post by haunter »

Krita is also sold as a paid version (store version [0]) for a one time fee (never goes on sale). So unlike most open source projects it might have a more steady income already. I don't know anything about their sales numbers but according to SteamSpy they are in the 100-200k range [1] and that's one store only not counting MS and Epic.

I was actually arguing for a long time that more open source projects should do the same. Be on digital stores and sell the application for a one time fee.

0, https://krita.org/en/download/krita-desktop/

1, https://steamspy.com/app/280680

Re: Krita fund has no corporate support

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Post by raincole »

hospitalJail wrote: post #50
raincole wrote: post #18

I'm migrating from Krita to Photoshop lately. Don't get me wrong, I love Krita. I used it for years and I wrote ~30+ bug reports. It's a positive thing -- I won't bother reporting bugs to Adobe cause I know they don't care, unlike Krita devs. However every time I need to collaborate with someone else, they use Photoshop. They use .psd like it's an interchangeable format[1]. Out of 10+ artists I've only seen one who d…

Hate defacto standards behind corporations. M$ Windows, Photoshop, each company gets locked into their own CAD nightmare. On the flip slide, we have Blender, Linux Server, (enough)SQL, Git, Stable Diffusion, and maybe python/python libraries if that counts.

When I moved from web dev to game dev, the second most surprising thing I found is how much this industry depends on proprietary solutions compared to web dev.

The most surprising thing is how little professional people get paid, again compared to web dev.

Re: Krita fund has no corporate support

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Post by marcinzm »

scrpl wrote: post #9
doublerabbit wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When corporate support rolls in, project tend to turn sour. Demand from the corporate entities proceed to dominate rather than voices from individual donations. Its a double edged sword.

That's because many corporate "donations" are not so much a donation as a way of soft-buying a feature. It's hard for businesses hyperfocused on short-term gains to understand a long-term value of, for example, supporting an alternative for an industry-dominating Adobe toolkit. But the value is there.

Long-term value that's hard to define doesn't translate well to stock price especially when any investment also helps competitors who aren't investing anything into the project.

Re: Krita fund has no corporate support

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Post by RockyMcNuts »

lars_francke wrote: post #7

I want someone to build this: SBOM (Software Bill of Materials) are slowly becoming ubiquitus around the world due to regulation. I want to be able to aggregate all SBOMs within my company, have a small tool that scans my machine and creates a SBOM for all Open Source tools I use (e.g. Firefox, VLC etc.), uploads that to my corporate registry. This data is then submitted to a donation aggregator which analyzes those…

same for news and blogs ... pay $10 per month, get paywall access, browser tracks what you read and distributes to authors. open source version of Apple news that actually supports local news and indies without extracting a giant additional vig.

Re: Krita fund has no corporate support

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Post by colejohnson66 »

lars_francke wrote: post #7

I want someone to build this: SBOM (Software Bill of Materials) are slowly becoming ubiquitus around the world due to regulation. I want to be able to aggregate all SBOMs within my company, have a small tool that scans my machine and creates a SBOM for all Open Source tools I use (e.g. Firefox, VLC etc.), uploads that to my corporate registry. This data is then submitted to a donation aggregator which analyzes those…

A "clearing house" for donations would be pretty neat

Re: Krita fund has no corporate support

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Post by snarfed »

lars_francke wrote: post #7

I want someone to build this: SBOM (Software Bill of Materials) are slowly becoming ubiquitus around the world due to regulation. I want to be able to aggregate all SBOMs within my company, have a small tool that scans my machine and creates a SBOM for all Open Source tools I use (e.g. Firefox, VLC etc.), uploads that to my corporate registry. This data is then submitted to a donation aggregator which analyzes those…

This is https://tidelift.com/ ! Others too, I think.

Re: Krita fund has no corporate support

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Post by moralestapia »

snarfed wrote: post #58
lars_francke wrote: post #7

I want someone to build this: SBOM (Software Bill of Materials) are slowly becoming ubiquitus around the world due to regulation. I want to be able to aggregate all SBOMs within my company, have a small tool that scans my machine and creates a SBOM for all Open Source tools I use (e.g. Firefox, VLC etc.), uploads that to my corporate registry. This data is then submitted to a donation aggregator which analyzes those…

This is https://tidelift.com/ ! Others too, I think.

"Contact us for a quote"

Any idea how much that is?

Re: Krita fund has no corporate support

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Post by orlandohill »

cornholio wrote: post #30

This type of software is an excellent fit for "eventually open" licenses: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12459492 This way, corporations and business users can pay to get the latest version and features just like commercial software, while the hobbyist community still gets a relative recent and feature-full release they can use for free, has source available and is guaranteed to become fully GPL code in 3-5 yea…

Another approach is to allow free non-commercial use, and to charge for commercial licenses. There are licenses that grant all the rights that non-commercial users want, but still require businesses to pay.

https://polyformproject.org/licenses/noncommercial/1.0.0/ https://prosperitylicense.com/

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