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Government URLs that don't end in .gov
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Re: Government URLs that don't end in .gov
#72Sort of funny that the README never mentions which government they're talking about. Classic USA trying to make sure everyone knows they're the most important country in the history of planet Earth
Re: Government URLs that don't end in .gov
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
> it's under a cctld that clearly affiliated to and managed by that government. Maybe this is my latent American nationalism showing, but isn't .gov "clearly affiliated to and managed by" the US government? I think this bit was added as an edit or maybe I just missed it: > an inherently international .gov domain .gov is not inherently international for all the reasons in this subthread (and probably others as well)
I don't think thats clear at all. We have three people in this thread already confused on the issue. I think the poster wasn't talking of the US government but of knowing which government a domain is related to by just looking at it. ".gov" is not clear while ".gov.uk" is clear due to the ccTLD. > but isn't .gov "clearly affiliated to and managed by" the US government I would say no. What makes it clear to you?
All the documentation is very clear and the behavior is consistent. It’s sub optimal for countries utilizing a .gov.{country code} scheme, but it would be extremely expensive to change. Many non English speaking countries use a different abbreviation for their word for government, so it’s hard to argue that the status quo has to change to benefit “everyone.”
The us also has .mil locked up for mostly purposes.
Re: Government URLs that don't end in .gov
#74I think it's particularly interesting that the US use .gov and not .gov.us (as a Brit). I'm sure there are oversights on who can acquire an inherently international .gov domain, but for example here in the UK .gov.uk domains have a strict application process [0] managed by central government. It just seems to me that it would be more secure, and more reassuring to citizens and visitors that they are on the correct si…
This got me thinking about cookie scope, and I have a feeling that domaina.tld. and domainb.tld. is always safer than domaina.gov.tl. and domainb.gov.tld. I might be way off here, but I think that means either domain could set a gov.tld cookie which is sent to all domains, and if one of them is reading cookies without checking scope it could be a way to send whatever to another server. Or even worse, if one of the si…
Browsers use the public suffix list to determine cookie scope. So .co.uk domains are just as isolated from each other as .com domains.
You can even get your own domains added to it, typically because you allow users to host their own content on a subdomain (like github.io for github pages).
Re: Government URLs that don't end in .gov
#75So every time the FBI/CIA sets up a domain for a sting operation it has to be listed here? Seems like an Achilles' heel, no?
> This repo contains USA.gov's list of public government domains and URLs that don't end in .gov or .mil.
Definitely not.
Re: Government URLs that don't end in .gov
#76I went through the process of registering a .gov domain recently and it definitely takes a couple of months. It requires a letter of intent, wet signatures from elected official(s) on official letterhead, a phone call to a publicly listed number of an elected official, 2FA enrollment for the management of DNS/WHOIS, and a period of time in between some of these steps for some behind-the-scenes verification to take pl…
What type of organization are you operating where you'd need a .gov? Is this a government organization (like a local government or city hall)? Or is it possible for even random non-government related non-profits to have legitimate uses for .govs? Edit: I was mostly commenting on this. > In fact, the most difficult part is convincing management that we should make the full migration to the .gov It sounds like the most…
You must be an official government entity at a local, state, or federal level. This can include cities, counties, special districts, joint power authorities, state offices, etc.
Re: Government URLs that don't end in .gov
#77I think it's particularly interesting that the US use .gov and not .gov.us (as a Brit). I'm sure there are oversights on who can acquire an inherently international .gov domain, but for example here in the UK .gov.uk domains have a strict application process [0] managed by central government. It just seems to me that it would be more secure, and more reassuring to citizens and visitors that they are on the correct si…
This got me thinking about cookie scope, and I have a feeling that domaina.tld. and domainb.tld. is always safer than domaina.gov.tl. and domainb.gov.tld. I might be way off here, but I think that means either domain could set a gov.tld cookie which is sent to all domains, and if one of them is reading cookies without checking scope it could be a way to send whatever to another server. Or even worse, if one of the si…
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Re: Government URLs that don't end in .gov
#78I think it's particularly interesting that the US use .gov and not .gov.us (as a Brit). I'm sure there are oversights on who can acquire an inherently international .gov domain, but for example here in the UK .gov.uk domains have a strict application process [0] managed by central government. It just seems to me that it would be more secure, and more reassuring to citizens and visitors that they are on the correct si…
Do .gov's have to be renewed every year with ICANN? What if a dept lets theirs lapse and some squatter swoops in and takes it? We'll start the bidding at $1B USD...
You’re confusing TLDs and domain names.
Re: Government URLs that don't end in .gov
#79Sort of funny that the README never mentions which government they're talking about. Classic USA trying to make sure everyone knows they're the most important country in the history of planet Earth
It's implied which government they are talking about because 1) .gov is only used by the US; and 2) The GitHub account is GSA - U.S. General Services Administration.
Re: Government URLs that don't end in .gov
#80Always found it arbitrary that .gov is only for use by the US.
Other countries could create their gTLD as they see fit: .gouv, .ukgov, etc.
They instead prefer using a SLD (like .gouv.fr) because they’re complete owner of their ccTLD. ccTLDs are not affiliated in anyway with ICANN. I’m guessing .gov is a special case nowadays, and probably considered like a ccTLD from the ICANN point of view, I’ll have to look into it
Edit: it seems like gov is considered as a Sponsored TLD[1] (sTLD). Not sure what it implies.