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Had another country had a primary role in inventing the internet, they would probably have it (or more likely, the US would be .gov.us and everyone else would be whatever they are today).
CERN / Switzerland would like a word
Government URLs that don't end in .gov
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Re: Government URLs that don't end in .gov
#62I went through the process of registering a .gov domain recently and it definitely takes a couple of months. It requires a letter of intent, wet signatures from elected official(s) on official letterhead, a phone call to a publicly listed number of an elected official, 2FA enrollment for the management of DNS/WHOIS, and a period of time in between some of these steps for some behind-the-scenes verification to take pl…
What type of organization are you operating where you'd need a .gov? Is this a government organization (like a local government or city hall)? Or is it possible for even random non-government related non-profits to have legitimate uses for .govs? Edit: I was mostly commenting on this. > In fact, the most difficult part is convincing management that we should make the full migration to the .gov It sounds like the most…
Re: Government URLs that don't end in .gov
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
What type of organization are you operating where you'd need a .gov? Is this a government organization (like a local government or city hall)? Or is it possible for even random non-government related non-profits to have legitimate uses for .govs? Edit: I was mostly commenting on this. > In fact, the most difficult part is convincing management that we should make the full migration to the .gov It sounds like the most…
I would hope that random "non-government related non-profits" aren't using .gov domains. Isn't the whole point of the domain that it's just for government entities?
Lots of small towns have dot coms when they could have dot gov.
Re: Government URLs that don't end in .gov
#64I’ve always thought it was weird that the Canadian federal government uses canada.ca almost exclusively. You see a lot of https://service-service.canada.ca/sign-up-sinscrire.aspx .ca is open for registration by anyone, and people are used to seeing that TLD. Combine that with the bilingual super long domain names and every once in a while you’ll see a phishing scam like: https://service-service-canada.ca/sign-up-sins…
.gc.ca exists for that exact purpose. It has the advantage of being bilingual ("GC" expands to both "Government of Canada" and "Gouvernement du Canada", .gov.ca omits the "u" in the French word gouvernement ). I believe the canada.ca thing relates to the centralization of federal government IT under Shared Services Canada (SSC) in 2011. SSC is an attempt to make a "one stop shop" for government IT services, and Canad…
Re: Government URLs that don't end in .gov
#65I think it's particularly interesting that the US use .gov and not .gov.us (as a Brit). I'm sure there are oversights on who can acquire an inherently international .gov domain, but for example here in the UK .gov.uk domains have a strict application process [0] managed by central government. It just seems to me that it would be more secure, and more reassuring to citizens and visitors that they are on the correct si…
I might be way off here, but I think that means either domain could set a gov.tld cookie which is sent to all domains, and if one of them is reading cookies without checking scope it could be a way to send whatever to another server. Or even worse, if one of the sites is using gov.uk cookies for something sensitive, then any of the others could read it.
Does anyone know if browsers have special cookie scope considerations for things like .gov.uk and .co.uk?
Re: Government URLs that don't end in .gov
#66However the government created a separate Section 8 company called Digital India corporation that runs a separate group of websites for Citizen Outreach called MyGov, which runs a separate subdomain for these: mygov.in. Unfortunately, they haven’t gotten around to registering it as a public suffix, so there are concerns around security (cookies are shared between completely separate sites). The public suffix list doesn’t accept contributions without authorisation anymore, so it’s unlikely to be fixed.
There’s also the interesting case of some government sites preferring .org.in to showcase independence from government interference- RBI, for eg (the central bank) runs at rbi.org.in.
I wrote a few more findings when I created a list back in 2020: https://twitter.com/captn3m0/status/1301613472615030784
Re: Government URLs that don't end in .gov
#67I’ve always thought it was weird that the Canadian federal government uses canada.ca almost exclusively. You see a lot of https://service-service.canada.ca/sign-up-sinscrire.aspx .ca is open for registration by anyone, and people are used to seeing that TLD. Combine that with the bilingual super long domain names and every once in a while you’ll see a phishing scam like: https://service-service-canada.ca/sign-up-sins…
As has been noted elsewhere in the thread, Canada wouldn't be eligible to use bare .gov if they wanted to, because it's only for US government entities.
Re: Government URLs that don't end in .gov
#68I got an official email from New York State's Office Of The Comptroller with a link to osc.state.ny.us. It came from an email address @osc.ny.gov. I don't understand why they couldn't use an official TLD in the URL too.
It got rather messy when the Feds started letting states get delegations under .gov and .us was opened to registration of second level domains and new multilevel delegates became discouraged or disallowed.
Re: Government URLs that don't end in .gov
#69Title should state "US Government..."
Re: Government URLs that don't end in .gov
#70I’ve always thought it was weird that the Canadian federal government uses canada.ca almost exclusively. You see a lot of https://service-service.canada.ca/sign-up-sinscrire.aspx .ca is open for registration by anyone, and people are used to seeing that TLD. Combine that with the bilingual super long domain names and every once in a while you’ll see a phishing scam like: https://service-service-canada.ca/sign-up-sins…
> CIRA could set up a .gov.ca second level or something if they really wanted to keep the .ca As has been noted elsewhere in the thread, Canada wouldn't be eligible to use bare .gov if they wanted to, because it's only for US government entities.