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The ad-based internet is dying, and it's getting worse in the process [video]

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Re: The ad-based internet is dying, and it's getting worse in the process [video]

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> His two examples are Twitter and Reddit whose ad revenue is dying because those two companies have made huge blunders. Elon seems to almost actively be killing Twitter I disagree. Elon doesn't care about ad revenue. He stated multiple times that the goal is to make Twitter a superapp.

Haha, what is a superapp?

Something like wechat, like payments, messages, socialmedia, shopping, ...

Re: The ad-based internet is dying, and it's getting worse in the process [video]

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does that mean that investment is fundamentally beholden to market inefficiency?

Exploitation of a knowledge gap and existing market constraints.

If all you can think of are services, maybe. But the people that make things don’t agree.

Re: The ad-based internet is dying, and it's getting worse in the process [video]

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His two examples are Twitter and Reddit whose ad revenue is dying because those two companies have made huge blunders. Elon seems to almost actively be killing Twitter (which the poster even states). Reddit screwed Apollo and then many of the most popular subreddits protested and did things like show porn on otherwise usually SFW content to prevent Reddit from showing ads and thus killing their profits. Those are big…

> His two examples are Twitter and Reddit whose ad revenue is dying because those two companies have made huge blunders. Elon seems to almost actively be killing Twitter I disagree. Elon doesn't care about ad revenue. He stated multiple times that the goal is to make Twitter a superapp.

He also threatened to "thermonuclear name and shame" advertisers who paused spending.

https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-name-shame-adverti...

Re: The ad-based internet is dying, and it's getting worse in the process [video]

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I work in the ad industry. I have some expertise both on witnessing the alleged decline and counter-acting it. Before anyone asks about my moral compass I do not like ads, I never have, but they're an inevitability. The problems big ad tech face are unique and very hard especially w.r.t. to data. Anyway, ads are not dying. By and large ad quality is getting better. There are several companies that exist now to pre-sc…

It’s also a matter of equity. The instant the cost moves off of “free”, hundreds of millions of people are excluded.

Each person has to evaluate their own costs and benefits, but services that don’t charge offer value to the most poor at an unbeatable price.

Re: The ad-based internet is dying, and it's getting worse in the process [video]

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His two examples are Twitter and Reddit whose ad revenue is dying because those two companies have made huge blunders. Elon seems to almost actively be killing Twitter (which the poster even states). Reddit screwed Apollo and then many of the most popular subreddits protested and did things like show porn on otherwise usually SFW content to prevent Reddit from showing ads and thus killing their profits. Those are big…

> His two examples are Twitter and Reddit whose ad revenue is dying because those two companies have made huge blunders. Elon seems to almost actively be killing Twitter I disagree. Elon doesn't care about ad revenue. He stated multiple times that the goal is to make Twitter a superapp.

As someone who works for an asian "superapp", the grass is always greener.

Superapps are self-limiting, because the app-size is too large for many user's phones (Uber has famously had this problem too, and thus split up their apps [0]).

The UX also tends to be a bit weird. Everyone wants to use the superapp differently and so the interface ends up being the lowest common denominator across all product families.

[0] https://apps.apple.com/in/developer/uber-technologies-inc/id...

Re: The ad-based internet is dying, and it's getting worse in the process [video]

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I think we really need microtransactions. Pay $0.05 to read this article? Sure. Whoever figures out the infrastructure for that (seems like it would be right up Stripe’s alley) is going to make trillions.

I've recently used Axate (www.axate.com) on a news website. You top up credit, and then pay per article.

Re: The ad-based internet is dying, and it's getting worse in the process [video]

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His two examples are Twitter and Reddit whose ad revenue is dying because those two companies have made huge blunders. Elon seems to almost actively be killing Twitter (which the poster even states). Reddit screwed Apollo and then many of the most popular subreddits protested and did things like show porn on otherwise usually SFW content to prevent Reddit from showing ads and thus killing their profits. Those are big…

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Re: The ad-based internet is dying, and it's getting worse in the process [video]

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His two examples are Twitter and Reddit whose ad revenue is dying because those two companies have made huge blunders. Elon seems to almost actively be killing Twitter (which the poster even states). Reddit screwed Apollo and then many of the most popular subreddits protested and did things like show porn on otherwise usually SFW content to prevent Reddit from showing ads and thus killing their profits. Those are big…

Have adds been getting worse? Adds I get in the last 3 years have been way too good for me, so my personal experience has been the opposite (or maybe not? Definitely makes me want to buy more stuff). I guess I’m easily targetable

Re: The ad-based internet is dying, and it's getting worse in the process [video]

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Worse are the body shaming ad/games I have done a reasonable job at fooling Instagram to the extent where they think I'm a woman and I see horrifying ads all the time like the following: https://twitter.com/AndrewKemendo/status/1676597672667381773 I looked further and the key thing that viewers are doing (based on 600k app store reviews which seem to be mostly real) is trying to "give the girl a chance for once" "hel…

That is horrifying

That little animation at the end, was there a panel of her going to a gynecologist and a green mist coming from her?

The older I get, the more I can see what Ayn Rand was getting at.

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