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Re: Google I/O 2023

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Post by tnel77 »

criddell wrote: post #58
m0zzie wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No problem! My team is a small subset of engineers in a 10yo+ startup, and the organisation chose to go all in on many Google services long before any of us joined the company. I have my issues with Google and some of their services but the GP stands out as an odd comment to me because it's at odds with my own experience of keeping up with I/O talks.

Is it still a startup after a decade? Isn’t it just a company at that point.

Related: It drives me bananas when a mega-corp makes a small R&D team and the job req says “we are a small startup in a big company.” The benefits, bureaucracy, speed of innovation, and equity all fit the usual mega corporate shoes, so it’s probably still a traditional role.

Re: Google I/O 2023

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Post by kellengreen »

danwee wrote: post #2

I was very enthusiastic about Google I/O in the past (around the year 2010). Full of nice tech talks; I learned a lot. These years, I couldn't care less. It's all business talk. I guess developers are not the target audience anymore (and for newcomers, perhaps the "I/O" may be misleading).

I completely agree. I'm a multiple year attendee, and couldn't be bothered with the announcements these days.

Re: Google I/O 2023

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Post by jsheard »

edandersen wrote: post #53

Agressive pricing on the Pixel Fold is going to undercut Samsung's flagship most profitable phone. This will be interesting.

A reputable leaker said the Pixel Fold will be priced identically to the Samsung Fold 4: https://twitter.com/jon_prosser/status/1648009519878774799

Factoring in all the discounts and incentives that Samsung tends to do, the Pixel may be more expensive in practice. That's bold considering it has pretty middle-of-the-road specs, it's using the Tensor G2 SOC that launched last year and wasn't the best Android SOC even then, nevermind now that it's up against the Snapdragon 8 gen 2.

Re: Google I/O 2023

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Post by kellengreen »

pnw wrote: post #40

I remember Sergey skydiving onto the roof of Moscone in 2012, and everyone getting one of those cool Nexus Q media players which they never actually released so they all ended up as landfill. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexus_Q

Same, that was one slick device.

Re: Google I/O 2023

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Post by echelon »

m0zzie wrote: post #46
echelon wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google can pretend they're not IBM, but that doesn't make it true. Google no longer innovates or launches products of note. They throw ideas at the wall, like spaghetti, and hope things stick. Perverse incentives create competing products, dead end projects, and invariably everything created winds up getting cancelled. Google got drunk off of easy search ad revenue. Their founding leadership went off to do zeppelins…

Did you mean to reply to a different comment? I'm not sure what relevance this has to my comment which you're replying to?

I meant it in response to your comment.

> As a Staff Eng who leads and mentors engineers who live in a world where they have no choice but to use Google SDKs and services, I find many of the developer-focused talks invaluable for getting others in my team up to speed on what's new and what's coming soon.

This sounds identical to IBM developer outreach. Or Ballmer-era Microsoft. Similar straightjackets, captive audience.

We'll see if Google can excite people about AI here, but I'm doubtful.

Re: Google I/O 2023

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Post by gjvc »

clnq wrote: post #69
gjvc wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

RIP Google Wave, we hardly knew ya.

It was kept alive internally by Apache for a while later — https://incubator.apache.org/projects/wave.html . Very interesting why it failed as a project in two separate companies. There was an explosion of team collaboration software in the 2010s and yet these companies couldn't make their product compete.

"The Wave project retired on 2018-01-15."

Re: Google I/O 2023

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Post by jytechdevops »

TimCTRL wrote: post #20

I for one benefited so much from Google Developer Groups while at University. Google made sure we learned how to build Android Apps, and consume API's and services like Maps, Firebase, etc. Overall, I gained a good understanding of how systems work, Thanks Google! --From Uganda

That's fantastic to hear. The guy who leads GDG for North America and Canada grew up in Nigeria and got his education there. He's the most enthusiastic and passionate developer I've ever met. I love the reach google has in inspiring new engineers. Thanks for sharing your story.

Re: Google I/O 2023

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Post by edandersen »

jsheard wrote: post #73
edandersen wrote: post #53

Agressive pricing on the Pixel Fold is going to undercut Samsung's flagship most profitable phone. This will be interesting.

A reputable leaker said the Pixel Fold will be priced identically to the Samsung Fold 4: https://twitter.com/jon_prosser/status/1648009519878774799 Factoring in all the discounts and incentives that Samsung tends to do, the Pixel may be more expensive in practice. That's bold considering it has pretty middle-of-the-road specs, it's using the Tensor G2 SOC that launched last year and wasn't the best Android SOC even t…

Samsung probably had a word then.

Pixels normally are very generously priced, especially outside the US compared to Apple.

Re: Google I/O 2023

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Post by dpbriggs »

ohgodplsno wrote: post #57
TimCTRL wrote: post #20

I for one benefited so much from Google Developer Groups while at University. Google made sure we learned how to build Android Apps, and consume API's and services like Maps, Firebase, etc. Overall, I gained a good understanding of how systems work, Thanks Google! --From Uganda

Google did not do this out of the goodness of their heart. They did it to lock you in with Firebase, Maps, etc. And believe me, the moment they start charging you for it, you quickly realize why Google is not a company to give an ounce of trust to.

I wouldn't as knowledgeable and successful in tech without free computing resources from various companies. My parents didn't have any money and I certainly didn't either.

There's a lot of transferable skills gained in these products. You're not just operating a Maytag.

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