Haters gonna hate.
I for one am super excited about this years chat app fail!
Bring on Allo Meets with Messages! The worlds most force installed Chat app with as many users as its development team!
Google I/O 2023
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#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
When was that? (I expect whatever year you give other people will say it was already just corporate talk before then)
I would say roughly around when they killed their Nexus line.
Yes. This is when I felt they had veered from the path I was following and supporting. Nexus 5 was a great phone!
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#53Agressive pricing on the Pixel Fold is going to undercut Samsung's flagship most profitable phone. This will be interesting.
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#54I was very enthusiastic about Google I/O in the past (around the year 2010). Full of nice tech talks; I learned a lot. These years, I couldn't care less. It's all business talk. I guess developers are not the target audience anymore (and for newcomers, perhaps the "I/O" may be misleading).
If you want tech talks from Google, Android Dev Con is great. I wonder if there's anything like that for other parts of their business.
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#55Wow based on the comments Google IO is already dead on arrival. Maybe the hate will put some fire under google to come out with something meaningful in the years to come.
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would say roughly around when they killed their Nexus line.
Ooh, I thought we were going to be arguing about an earlier time. The last Nexus (pretty sure) was the 6P, released 2015-10 and discontinued 2016-10. I remember this complaint from the IO 2013, when I was there representing mod_pagespeed.
I mean, you could argue that it was earlier, but I think that's the point where most people would agree the magic was dead.
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#57I for one benefited so much from Google Developer Groups while at University. Google made sure we learned how to build Android Apps, and consume API's and services like Maps, Firebase, etc. Overall, I gained a good understanding of how systems work, Thanks Google! --From Uganda
Google did not do this out of the goodness of their heart. They did it to lock you in with Firebase, Maps, etc. And believe me, the moment they start charging you for it, you quickly realize why Google is not a company to give an ounce of trust to.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
> live in a world where they have no choice but to use Google SDKs and services Which world is this? I’m genuinely interested not trying to be rude.
No problem! My team is a small subset of engineers in a 10yo+ startup, and the organisation chose to go all in on many Google services long before any of us joined the company. I have my issues with Google and some of their services but the GP stands out as an odd comment to me because it's at odds with my own experience of keeping up with I/O talks.
Is it still a startup after a decade? Isn’t it just a company at that point.
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#59I know I'm going against the grain here, but I'm actually looking forward to the event and plan to watch it :)
Me too, excited to see what they have planned for Bard and Workspace.
I'm excited to see anything they actually launch for Bard/Workspace, less so about what they have planned. But still excited for it.
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#60I can’t remember the last time I/O was interesting. I never feel like Google introduces something important or noteworthy.
This I/O is pretty important, IMO, as Google's reputation for being the best cloud for data science is on the line with ChatGPT eating their AI position and BigQuery's waning developer pull. Data is a large driver for companies to use Google Cloud, and without that they're in big trouble, IMO. Hopefully this I/O gives folks more compelling reasons to use Google Cloud.
Why would we hope that?