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Ask HN: Is Satya Nadella the best tech CEO of last decade?

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Re: Ask HN: Is Satya Nadella the best tech CEO of last decade?

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Post by osigurdson »

pell wrote: post #68
osigurdson wrote: post #54

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I don't think Tim Cook has had much impact on Apple however.

He has lead Apple after Jobs died which is no small task. He oversaw the iPhone market which has been growing continuously under his leadership. He started and grew Apple’s services division, launched Apple Watch, AirPods and the Apple Silicon transition which have all been massively successful by any metric. I don’t understand how Tim Cook’s tenure can be considered not impactful.

I agree with "Apple Silicon transition". Everything else is obvious / organic growth.

Re: Ask HN: Is Satya Nadella the best tech CEO of last decade?

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Post by qbasic_forever »

Delphiza wrote: post #69
qbasic_forever wrote: post #53

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The more popular those apps the more money Microsoft is paying Apple and Google to sell the apps in their stores. Nothing is stopping Apple or Google from shaking MS down for more dollars by bumping up app store profit sharing splits. I have to imagine being forced to play by someone else's rules and live in their ecosystem would have completely enraged 90's era Microsoft led by Bill Gates--he would have moved heaven…

How much does Microsoft pay Apple for Outlook on iOS? This is a half serious question because I dont' pay for it out of the app store, so Apple is not getting a share there. Does Microsoft pay anything other than a developer license? Parent comment is still valid. Microsoft dominates enterprise office tools across all platforms, including mobile.

30% cut of people that subscribe to office 365 through the app (which Apple requires be an option, MS can't force you to go to their site to subscribe or Apple kicks them off the store, see the epic vs apple lawsuit: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_Games_v._Apple )

Re: Ask HN: Is Satya Nadella the best tech CEO of last decade?

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Post by ASalazarMX »

uberman wrote: post #2

I don't know how much of the MS turnaround can be attributed to him, but if we take it at face value that the CEO is responsible for everything, then MS definitely has had a dramatic positive run following Nadella taking the reigns from Ballmer. MS still lacks a industry leading 21st century consumer device and Nadella has not been able to change that but his bets on cloud computing, embracing of Linux and open sourc…

Just having Ballmer out had a positive effect. He wasn't a visionary, and Microsoft stagnated during his lead. It was like keeping only the bad side of Bill Gates.

Re: Ask HN: Is Satya Nadella the best tech CEO of last decade?

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Post by ginko »

uberman wrote: post #65
slondr wrote: post #43

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Emacs has been able to edit files transparently on remote hosts for longer than vscode has existed

While I agree with this technically and I have used vi(m) for years, there is something experientially quite different about being able to use a local gui with all the mouse support and ease of use of VSCode or Sublime compared to the chording of more traditional terminal editors. I'm not knocking Emacs or Vim, they are powerful tools but to be able to show a typical first year student how to edit their code remotely…

Emacs had a GUI mode with mouse support since the 80s.

Re: Ask HN: Is Satya Nadella the best tech CEO of last decade?

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Post by DanielHB »

qbasic_forever wrote: post #63
DanielHB wrote: post #60

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> Nothing is stopping Apple or Google from shaking MS down for more dollars by bumping up app store profit sharing splits The government is stopping this kind of thing, anti trust, monopolies and all that. It is only getting worse for these platform owners

Lol no, the government doesn't care or set any restrictions on the profit split Apple/Google sets for people selling products in their store. Monolopy and anti-trust concerns buying companies and marketshare, not being a better product and consumers willingly switching to your product. It would actually be the death of capitalism for the government to go to Apple/Google and say, "woah woah woah hold on, this is _too…

maybe look up the railroad and oil monopolies history in the US

Re: Ask HN: Is Satya Nadella the best tech CEO of last decade?

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Post by voisin »

qbasic_forever wrote: post #72
Delphiza wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much does Microsoft pay Apple for Outlook on iOS? This is a half serious question because I dont' pay for it out of the app store, so Apple is not getting a share there. Does Microsoft pay anything other than a developer license? Parent comment is still valid. Microsoft dominates enterprise office tools across all platforms, including mobile.

30% cut of people that subscribe to office 365 through the app (which Apple requires be an option, MS can't force you to go to their site to subscribe or Apple kicks them off the store, see the epic vs apple lawsuit: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_Games_v._Apple )

Is it possible to subscribe to office 365 directly from mobile? Legit question, I’ve never tried.

Re: Ask HN: Is Satya Nadella the best tech CEO of last decade?

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Post by qbasic_forever »

voisin wrote: post #77
qbasic_forever wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

30% cut of people that subscribe to office 365 through the app (which Apple requires be an option, MS can't force you to go to their site to subscribe or Apple kicks them off the store, see the epic vs apple lawsuit: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_Games_v._Apple )

Is it possible to subscribe to office 365 directly from mobile? Legit question, I’ve never tried.

I dunno I'm not an iOS user. The app store preview says it has in app purchases so it shouldn't be hard for you to figure it out: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/microsoft-365-office/id5411640...

"Subscription & Privacy Disclaimer

Unlock the full Microsoft 365 experience with a qualifying Microsoft 365 subscription for your phone, tablet, PC and Mac.

Monthly Microsoft 365 subscriptions purchased from the app will be charged to your App Store account and will automatically renew within 24 hours prior to the end of the current subscription period unless auto-renewal is disabled beforehand. You can manage your subscriptions in your App Store account settings."

Re: Ask HN: Is Satya Nadella the best tech CEO of last decade?

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Post by thefz »

qbasic_forever wrote: post #24

Microsoft completely lost mobile. Like not just a few goofy phones like Kin, they just straight up have no relevance or marketshare or anything in what is clearly the future platform for all computing. A lot of this damage was done under Balmer, but IMHO Nadella has a lot of blame too. Microsoft has gone from domination of computing platforms and making money on every single device sale to competing for scraps in som…

> what is clearly the future platform for all computing

Dude. There are gonna still be servers, network infra, etc.

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