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Ask HN: Is Satya Nadella the best tech CEO of last decade?

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Re: Ask HN: Is Satya Nadella the best tech CEO of last decade?

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What exactly is the metric for "best" here?

I consider MS's record under Nadella to be a mixed bag. Azure is probably Nadella's biggest success, but it's hard to come up with any other significant market in which MS has excelled under Nadella where they were not previously dominant.

From a user perspective, many MS products I use have improved and many have changed in ways I would consider to be detrimental. VS Code is probably the only new MS product that I've started using regularly - and I'd only consider it to be a minor improvement over Sublime Text for my use cases.

Re: Ask HN: Is Satya Nadella the best tech CEO of last decade?

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The more popular those apps the more money Microsoft is paying Apple and Google to sell the apps in their stores. Nothing is stopping Apple or Google from shaking MS down for more dollars by bumping up app store profit sharing splits. I have to imagine being forced to play by someone else's rules and live in their ecosystem would have completely enraged 90's era Microsoft led by Bill Gates--he would have moved heaven…

> Nothing is stopping Apple or Google from shaking MS down for more dollars by bumping up app store profit sharing splits The government is stopping this kind of thing, anti trust, monopolies and all that. It is only getting worse for these platform owners

Lol no, the government doesn't care or set any restrictions on the profit split Apple/Google sets for people selling products in their store. Monolopy and anti-trust concerns buying companies and marketshare, not being a better product and consumers willingly switching to your product. It would actually be the death of capitalism for the government to go to Apple/Google and say, "woah woah woah hold on, this is _too popular_ we need to put the brakes on your profits". That kind of stuff only happened in centrally planned economies like the USSR.

Re: Ask HN: Is Satya Nadella the best tech CEO of last decade?

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Good CEOs don't screw up the current business. Great CEOs make big bets that work out. Tim Cook is clearly in the "good CEO" category.

false. Great CEOs maximize returns for the shareholders. this is inclusive of big bets.

False, great CEOs maximize NPV, not returns.

Re: Ask HN: Is Satya Nadella the best tech CEO of last decade?

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Best yet is VSCode into a docker container on a remote host. Feels like magic!

Emacs has been able to edit files transparently on remote hosts for longer than vscode has existed

While I agree with this technically and I have used vi(m) for years, there is something experientially quite different about being able to use a local gui with all the mouse support and ease of use of VSCode or Sublime compared to the chording of more traditional terminal editors.

I'm not knocking Emacs or Vim, they are powerful tools but to be able to show a typical first year student how to edit their code remotely using SSH/Container support in VSCode is comparatively dead simple. All the students I work with now use this strategy, much in the same way they prefer to use jupyter and pandas when they can.

Re: Ask HN: Is Satya Nadella the best tech CEO of last decade?

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To many, that's probably the foremost goal of a CEO, no?

Many? To the shareholders it is. But as a consumer I prefer innovation and not money hoarding. Shareholders think otherwise.

The Apple Silicon chips are a massive innovation which have just massively changed the laptop landscape. People are buying new MacBooks left and right because they can do all their work on a tiny laptop now which doesn't run hot and has a battery like an iPad.

Re: Ask HN: Is Satya Nadella the best tech CEO of last decade?

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false. Great CEOs maximize returns for the shareholders. this is inclusive of big bets.

False, great CEOs maximize NPV, not returns.

returns in this context would be inclusive of NPV

Re: Ask HN: Is Satya Nadella the best tech CEO of last decade?

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Tim Cook and Apple have better stats by virtually every metric - also a non-founder.

I don't think Tim Cook has had much impact on Apple however.

He has lead Apple after Jobs died which is no small task. He oversaw the iPhone market which has been growing continuously under his leadership. He started and grew Apple’s services division, launched Apple Watch, AirPods and the Apple Silicon transition which have all been massively successful by any metric. I don’t understand how Tim Cook’s tenure can be considered not impactful.

Re: Ask HN: Is Satya Nadella the best tech CEO of last decade?

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> Microsoft completely lost mobile. Like not just a few goofy phones like Kin, they just straight up have no relevance or marketshare or anything in what is clearly the future platform for all computing. Lost on mobile hardware and OS but their software (office, outlook, OneDrive) is extremely popular on mobile, no?

The more popular those apps the more money Microsoft is paying Apple and Google to sell the apps in their stores. Nothing is stopping Apple or Google from shaking MS down for more dollars by bumping up app store profit sharing splits. I have to imagine being forced to play by someone else's rules and live in their ecosystem would have completely enraged 90's era Microsoft led by Bill Gates--he would have moved heaven…

How much does Microsoft pay Apple for Outlook on iOS? This is a half serious question because I dont' pay for it out of the app store, so Apple is not getting a share there. Does Microsoft pay anything other than a developer license?

Parent comment is still valid. Microsoft dominates enterprise office tools across all platforms, including mobile.

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