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Re: GoDaddy supports SOPA, redditor proposes "Move your Domain Day"

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Post by pyre »

thebigshane wrote: post #42
jonursenbach wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why even support them at all?

The purpose of loss-leading products/services is to get consumers to purchase other things and that is where they make a profit. If a large enough group only purchases loss-leading products/services and don't purchase anything else, GoDaddy should be at a loss.... until they change their pricing models, and then you can just boycott them all together.

Eniugh people dropping the service altogether + recommending against it when asked for advice would probably deal a larger blow. Especially if Godaddy can no longer claim the top spot and ride that popularity to get people to sign up that *don'tV only buy loss leaders

Re: GoDaddy supports SOPA, redditor proposes "Move your Domain Day"

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Post by nextparadigms »

I think going after the supporters of SOPA one by one is a pretty effective method, if enough time. First let's go after the representatives who support it, and then after all the companies, and either terminate your account with them if applicable or at least e-mail them to express your feelings about them supporting SOPA.

Re: GoDaddy supports SOPA, redditor proposes "Move your Domain Day"

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Post by akkartik »

citricsquid wrote: post #32
ohashi wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even with their extreme coupon usage, from what I can tell they are still not using them as loss leaders (if we ignore all costs besides registry/icann). You also neglect to see the effect of thousands or tens of thousands of savvy people actively changing their mind about a company and NOT recommending it to people or bad mouthing the company. My suspicion is, the kind of people reading HN/Reddit are also the type o…

Not sure what prices you're paying with godaddy, but the absolute base cost (assuming godaddy don't have deals with verisign) is $7.52. If I go to the godaddy site now I can register a new domain for $5.02 (current converted) and I don't believe I have ever paid over $7.99 for a domain at godaddy, most of the time I get it below $7. They also routinely do ($1 + $0.18 ICANN fee) domains as others have mentioned

Those '120 domains' they're talking about aren't newly registered. Most people have been renewing them with godaddy every year for $12 a pop ($15 for .org).

Re: GoDaddy supports SOPA, redditor proposes "Move your Domain Day"

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Post by akkartik »

shimon_e wrote: post #31
ohashi wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even with their extreme coupon usage, from what I can tell they are still not using them as loss leaders (if we ignore all costs besides registry/icann). You also neglect to see the effect of thousands or tens of thousands of savvy people actively changing their mind about a company and NOT recommending it to people or bad mouthing the company. My suspicion is, the kind of people reading HN/Reddit are also the type o…

I'm sure they are lossing money when you use a coupon to get the domain down to $1.18.

Yes, but they make it back at renewal time.

I've definitely paid them back several times over for the domains I registered with them for $1.

Re: GoDaddy supports SOPA, redditor proposes "Move your Domain Day"

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Post by tbrownaw »

revscat wrote: post #36
maximusprime wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does "Open Internet" mean though? You can't reasonably support free speech in all instances, just like you can't reasonably support an "open internet" in all instances. There have to be some exceptions. It's the listing of those exceptions and how you deal with them that's the tricky bit. So saying "I support an open internet" is just ignoring the issue.

My list of what should be legally restricted in its availability is as follows: 1) Child pornography End list. National security is not enough of a reason for restrictions. Copyright is not enough of a reason. Further, the assumption that corporations or governments have exclusive moral authority to determine what constitutes impermissible material is, frankly, ridiculous. Giving them the authority to make such decis…

What is the reason for restricting that, and is there really nothing else it applies to?

Re: GoDaddy supports SOPA, redditor proposes "Move your Domain Day"

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Post by pyre »

maximusprime wrote: post #16

Please can we at least try to ensure HN doesn't go the way of Reddit? I'm against SOPA as much as the next guy, but it's a moot issue. Browsers will just release new versions that use alternate DNS systems or get past any 'blocks'. There's nothing uglier than an internet hate/protest mob.

I'm pretty sure that (at least in one of.its iterations) Sopa made workarounds for the DNS issue illegal.

Re: GoDaddy supports SOPA, redditor proposes "Move your Domain Day"

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Post by nextparadigms »

revscat wrote: post #36
maximusprime wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does "Open Internet" mean though? You can't reasonably support free speech in all instances, just like you can't reasonably support an "open internet" in all instances. There have to be some exceptions. It's the listing of those exceptions and how you deal with them that's the tricky bit. So saying "I support an open internet" is just ignoring the issue.

My list of what should be legally restricted in its availability is as follows: 1) Child pornography End list. National security is not enough of a reason for restrictions. Copyright is not enough of a reason. Further, the assumption that corporations or governments have exclusive moral authority to determine what constitutes impermissible material is, frankly, ridiculous. Giving them the authority to make such decis…

In the case of child pornography, banning the site really shouldn't be the whole solution anyway. They need to co-operate with law enforcement in those countries and arrest the people involved. Taking down their website domain won't do anything to deter the child pornographers.

This is why I believe the banning of child pornography sites is mostly used as an excuse to show "proof of concept censoring" and then use it to expand it to other stuff like copyright. This is why RIAA and MPAA love to use it as example that it's possible to censor them.

Re: GoDaddy supports SOPA, redditor proposes "Move your Domain Day"

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Post by shimon_e »

akkartik wrote: post #74
shimon_e wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure they are lossing money when you use a coupon to get the domain down to $1.18.

Yes, but they make it back at renewal time. I've definitely paid them back several times over for the domains I registered with them for $1.

You can transfer them using the next cheapest transfer coupon to another provider.

Re: GoDaddy supports SOPA, redditor proposes "Move your Domain Day"

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Post by wes-exp »

maximusprime wrote: post #16

Please can we at least try to ensure HN doesn't go the way of Reddit? I'm against SOPA as much as the next guy, but it's a moot issue. Browsers will just release new versions that use alternate DNS systems or get past any 'blocks'. There's nothing uglier than an internet hate/protest mob.

What's uglier than a protest mob?

A world without Youtube, Flickr, Etsy, and Vimeo. Plus the suppression of future innovative startups, all at the behest of dying media companies grasping for control.

If you think SOPA is a moot issue, you aren't paying attention.

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